Whole Foods Security Guard Potentially Faces Prison After Stopping Armed Robbery

[Sig_Fiend]

Because DEI. Same reason planes are starting to fall out of the sky. We're living in Idiocracy.

[TGS]

I get the trustworthiness thing but it’s not like he’s guarding the federal reserve here. He was working at a supermarket. The guy shouldn’t have been violating his probation and he’s going to face the consequences of that,

Are you saying that CMTs and felonies should not prohibit someone from getting a security officer license?

[Trooper224]

I get the trustworthiness thing but it’s not like he’s guarding the federal reserve here. He was working at a supermarket. The guy shouldn’t have been violating his probation and he’s going to face the consequences of that,

Because he's a shitbag, and one shouldn't hire shitbags.

[BehindBlueI's]

I get the trustworthiness thing but it’s not like he’s guarding the federal reserve here. He was working at a supermarket. The guy shouldn’t have been violating his probation and he’s going to face the consequences of that,

Most states have some version of shopkeeper's rights, which allows for the detention of suspected thieves for a certain time period until police can take custody of them. That person would then also be signing affidavits, perhaps writing them, testifying in court, etc. If you get falsely accused of theft because you irritated a shitbag who has a history of lying and making things difficult for people he doesn't like, I doubt the fact it's not the federal reserve will be much consolation.

[HCM]

I get the trustworthiness thing but it’s not like he’s guarding the federal reserve here. He was working at a supermarket. The guy shouldn’t have been violating his probation and he’s going to face the consequences of that,

In addition to having keys or access to sensitive areas and potentially detaining people as BBI mentioned, a uniform security guard would, for example, be someone in a position of authority that a lost child would be directed to find and trust until they can be reunited with their parents. Or they could be escorting lone females to their car at night etc.

In this instance, you have a guy who took sexual advantage of female inmates so he just doesn’t seem to be the appropriate person for these type of tasks.

I would think hiring felons as security guards also creates potential for “inside job” type crimes.

[vcdgrips]

Where I read this initially, I thought -there has to be more to the story. And there is…

His apparently tainted history as a DOJ employee and abuse of trust there explains the attempted enforcement of a supervised release violation condition under less than ideal conditions from the prosecutorial point of view.

It is clear the state is washing their hands of the entire matter dismissing with pred.

[WobblyPossum]

Are you saying that CMTs and felonies should not prohibit someone from getting a security officer license?

I think that should be up to whatever state licensing board handles the security guard license.

In addition to having keys or access to sensitive areas and potentially detaining people as BBI mentioned, a uniform security guard would, for example, be someone in a position of authority that a lost child would be directed to find and trust until they can be reunited with their parents. Or they could be escorting lone females to their car at night etc.

In this instance, you have a guy who took sexual advantage of female inmates so he just doesn’t seem to be the appropriate person for these type of tasks.

I would think hiring felons as security guards also creates potential for “inside job” type crimes.

Good point.

[Caballoflaco]

Because DEI. Same reason planes are starting to fall out of the sky. We're living in Idiocracy.

Can you drop some links to FAA accident reports to back up this claim?

Here’s a link to get get you started.
https://aviation-safety.net/database/2022-analysis

[Sig_Fiend]

Can you drop some links to FAA crash reports to back up this claim?

It's called rhetorical hyperbole. I would have hoped that was obvious by the manner in which I posted. There aren't countless planes falling out of the sky... yet. Arguably, some of the tragedies over the past decade probably fall into this category (e.g. Boeing 737 MAX, poor outsourcing/offshoring practices, engineering failures, leadership failures, etc).

Regardless, all signs point to an abysmal future in the near term with the Fortune 500 continuing to focus on punishing merit, filling diversity "quotas", and seemingly failing to ensure integrity with critical systems. For example, hiring felons ("because everyone deserves a second chance!") into roles of authority or that offer significant opportunity for abuse.

Personally, I find that as things continue descending further into Idiocracy, more and more the appropriate response seems to be rhetorical hyperbole. Ridicule the insanity. Point out and make fun of the contradictions. Maybe along the way, enough others will wake up (humor is a great unifier) for us to right the ship before things implode.

For example! Boeing needing to put everything on hold for a day to have a "quality stand down" and ensure no "extra parts" are leftover (like bolts!) from plane assembly. Again, I'm being hyperbolic but, it seems pretty justified at this point.

[Joe S]

Personally, I find that as things continue descending further into Idiocracy, more and more the appropriate response seems to be rhetorical hyperbole. Ridicule the insanity. Point out and make fun of the contradictions. Maybe along the way, enough others will wake up (humor is a great unifier) for us to right the ship before things implode.

For example! Boeing needing to put everything on hold for a day to have a "quality stand down" and ensure no "extra parts" are leftover (like bolts!) from plane assembly. Again, I'm being hyperbolic but, it seems pretty justified at this point.

Cue serious thread drift: not going after you personally, but as a jumping off point:

I think that's totally wrong, and part of what has gotten us into the current cultural/political mess our country is in. We've become too cool, too ironic, and we mock the opposing idea/idea person, which gets fun laughs from our side, and starts the screeching from the other side. You can pick any issue and any side, and you'll see it.

If we instead flatly and seriously pointed out the wrongs as wrongs, we would encourage open-minded people to our side, arm those who already agree with us with ammunition they can reuse, and at least show that we're above name calling while hopefully giving the crazies a little cognitive dissonance to mull over.

I think our zeitgeist is too concentrated on stoking our popularity on our own side with biting humor and clever rhetorical gambits, rather than actually being voices for reason.