@Greg Bell
That was me, however, things change.
Coming off the LG-405s, the new 432UC grips definitely pointed higher. I felt I was using a high grip with the LGs. I was not, as this is an example of one's definition can be different than another's. After some dry fire, and presentations, the VZ grips let me get higher, and present the sights flat. I have since swapped back the VZs.