A bit underwhelmed, looks like all they did was chop 2 rounds and make a 15 round variant, but same 4.5” barrel? I hope they hurry with other variants! One would think they would have made it competitive with G19 size wise?
A bit underwhelmed, looks like all they did was chop 2 rounds and make a 15 round variant, but same 4.5” barrel? I hope they hurry with other variants! One would think they would have made it competitive with G19 size wise?
Given that everyone thinks the G49 or whatever (G19 grip + G17 slide) is what Glock should have released decades ago and is the bees knees, it kind of makes sense they did the short grip variant first. I think it would also be the easiest to implement.
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We haven’t sold a single Echelon since they came out. Not surprised since it doesn’t really do anything special.
What I like is that it's $525, so like $100 cheaper than a G17.5 MOS, but it has better ergos (grip and slide), a better trigger, better sights, and a better optic mounting system. So you're getting a LOT more for your money. Of course, what you aren't getting is a proven track record, but to me it really does look like they just improved on SIG's FCU and came out with a superior design. Besides a few cases of people (or the factory) installing extended mag-bases incorrectly, the gun seems to be doing really well in the 1000 and 2000rd tests, though I have seen a guy who was getting failures.
As much as I HATE the XD and XDM, I do think Springfield turned a corner with the Hellcat and Hellcat PRO, and now the Echelon.
That said, I don't want a G17 or G49 sized gun...AND even if they come out with the G19 size I do like, I'm not sure I'd give up my G19.5s for it. I just got a NOMAD 9 gen5 frame and it feels really good--basically just as good as the Echelon grip.
I'm not remotely qualified to comment, but as a "wish list" thing, if Springfield took the Central Operating Group (FCU) and dropped it into a 12 round grip module, topped with a narrow, 1" slide, and assuming their V.I.S. optic mounting concept could accommodate an RMSc optic, they'd have something very, very similar to the P365 aka Adult Lego. Now that would attract some interest, I would bet.
I mean hell they could even have an ad campaign trolling Sig..."The Greek Echelon beats the Roman Legion..."