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    Is it possible you have a load that's on the edge and is temperature or position dependent? Try tipping the gun muzzle up before firing to settle the powder back toward the primer between shots, since you're shooting slow anyway. Kind of a PITA, but less a PITA than driving a squib out of the barrel.
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    That is 100% the way I was taught back around '86 @Malamute.

    I only run around 200 rounds at a time on my 550, takes around 40 minutes, but I eyeball every powder charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamute View Post
    The old school recommendation was throw charges in a loading block, look in them all before seating bullets to see if they all looked filled the same or had powder. I started that way back and havent had a no powder or low powder load. Had a small handful of dead primers.

    Ive had the RCBS powder measure adjustment lock come loose, I check the weight before and after charging the block full, then about every 10th to 20th round, if it varies, I backtrack and see where it went wrong and dump all the offending cases and re-do them until right.

    Looking in every case is part of why I only go around 300 rd/hr with the Dillon 550, the old single stage habits are hard to give up. If I cant see and confirm the charge its not getting a bullet. A small flashlight works, they now have small LED lights just made for loading presses to see inside each case.
    That's always been my method too. Unfortunately, the powder charge in the aforementioned wadcutters was so low that is was impossible to tell if the case had a full charge, or if there was just a bit of powder in the bottom of the case. That's the only time my calibrated eye ball failed me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    That's always been my method too. Unfortunately, the powder charge in the aforementioned wadcutters was so low that is was impossible to tell if the case had a full charge, or if there was just a bit of powder in the bottom of the case. That's the only time my calibrated eye ball failed me.

    That was mentioned in the manuals of the day as an issue with some powders when i was starting out. I decided to use a bulkier powder (Unique) because of it. Its not the optimal powder for light loads, but worked for the medium loads I mostly used. The lowest charge I used was 4.5 grs, but I wasnt shooting bullseye or going for ultimate accuracy potential.
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    I’ve found with 38’s and 357’s (and most non compressed rifle loads) I can shake them and hear whether or not they have powder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamute View Post
    That was mentioned in the manuals of the day as an issue with some powders when i was starting out. I decided to use a bulkier powder (Unique) because of it. Its not the optimal powder for light loads, but worked for the medium loads I mostly used. The lowest charge I used was 4.5 grs, but I wasnt shooting bullseye or going for ultimate accuracy potential.
    With a charge of 2.5 grains Interesting things can happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    With a charge of 2.5 grains Interesting things can happen.
    Indeed.


    Its been a learning experience using 3 grs Red Dot in 38 Short Colt and 30-30 round ball loads. I think I was just using the Lee powder dippers for those, I dont load many of them. Doing them in volume would be more challenging being so neurotic about checking charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamute View Post
    Indeed.


    Its been a learning experience using 3 grs Red Dot in 38 Short Colt and 30-30 round ball loads. I think I was just using the Lee powder dippers for those, I dont load many of them. Doing them in volume would be more challenging being so neurotic about checking charges.
    I wound up weighing the charges separately, which was a pain in the ass. That was one of the factors that made me switch back to a 1911 for bullseye.
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    I typically also use the loading block but sometimes with bulk loading I usually drop the powder in the case, look at it, then seat the bullet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    Is it possible you have a load that's on the edge and is temperature or position dependent? Try tipping the gun muzzle up before firing to settle the powder back toward the primer between shots, since you're shooting slow anyway. Kind of a PITA, but less a PITA than driving a squib out of the barrel.
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