Since that time other .32 choices have been added to the recommended ammo. The website currently lists four different JHP choices, one each from Winchester, PMC, Federal, and Speer.Originally Posted by penates
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Interesting. If this proves able to reach 12" of gel consistently, with a little bit of expansion, it will be a winner.Looks like Federal is releasing a new .32acp loading in their hydra-shok deep line. 68gr at 1000 out of 4 inches. Just so y’all know.
That is kind of out of the blue! Wonder if it portends another forthcoming .32 platform?
Looks like Federal is releasing a new .32acp loading in their hydra-shok deep line. 68gr at 1000 out of 4 inches. Just so y’all know.
Interesting…
I’d settled on Hornady 60 gr XTP for my wife’s Beretta 81 and 80X .32 conversion.
Been seeing very similar velocities to the above, but with a 60 gr projectile.
3.9” bbl measured vel: 983 fps 17.34 std dev
4.5” bbl measured vel: 1055 fps 23.03 std dev
But I’d be interested to see “real” calibrated gel testing with the Hydra-Shok Deep.
Nah, the Federal brass probably just read this thread and bought P32s like everyone else.
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FWIW, I never saw much expansion from the 60gr Hornady ammo fired from my old P-32's. The longer barrels might get you there, but I never trusted it. Fiocchi did load that bullet a litte hotter than Hornady, and I think they would sometimes expand from a P-32.
I'd also be interested in seeing real gel tests. If it's like other "Deep" calibers, they'll give up expansion diameter for deeper penetration, which is okay for these cases, IMHO.
Oh, I’m not surprised… I liked the velocity, the reported penetration of the XTP in Lucky Gunner’s tests, and the slight potential for expansion is just a bonus.
One thing that would make the Hydra-Shok Deep appealing is just the existence of FBI-type gel testing (assuming they do it and publish it).
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Personally, I am totally uninterested in calibrated gel testing with .32 ACP ammo. I see my Seecamp pistols as nasal cavity and under-the-jawline guns. “Patterned Compliance” is something that I am most likely to be doing at the distance at which I am handing someone my wallet and mobile phone. I want to know how a .32 ACP bullet does when it meets bone. Of course, part of this equation is that I am VERY unlikely to want to use a sight-less pistol at much farther than contact distance, anyway. (I used to qual with my Seecamps at two, five, and seven yards, IIRC, and would not miss the humanoid portion of a B-27, but when the admins started requiring that back-up guns be shot at 15 yards, I stopped bothering to qual with sightless weapons. Like a good boy, I put my Seecamp away, except for some very unusual, special circumstances, until I retired.)
I remember a .25 ACP load with an all-brass, very deep hollow-point bullet, which was designed NOT to expand, but to bite into bone. Seecamp LWS-25 owners seemed to be a significant part of the target audience, because this was EXPENSIVE ammo, loaded by a boutique loader, not something that a typical Raven owner would buy. This was when .25 ACP had a reputation for glancing-off of skulls. Somewhere along the way, BATFE cried foul, on solid brass bullets, and the load was changed to all-copper bullets, before the manufacturer disappeared.
Edited to add: Actually, if I remember correctly, I kept all of my Seecamp shots well within the scoring rings of a B-27, out to seven yards. Horizontal dispersion was quite minimal, with vertical stringing being a bit of a problem, but still what I considered acceptable.
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