The Patterned Compliance Pistol

[Caballoflaco]

Not shooting related, but I’ve played with turning on the phone screen while handing it over as an additional distraction if it’s dark out. Bright shiny screens can be distracting.

[Hambo]

This whole thread makes me want, what, my 4th Seecamp?

Of course, the sight issue would be as big an annoyance as with Seecamps 1, 2, and 3.

You made my day...I've only had 2.

[Paul Blackburn]

Depending on how this holster works out I thought about getting them to maybe incorporate a short flap over the top to manage that issue.

A handkerchief will solve that problem. This one is a cotton silk blend that’s very slick and makes sliding your hand in the pocket very easy.

[Totem Polar]

This thread is costing me money. Found a lightly used P32 at local Store. Dug out my .32 ACP and am back at it. Man, I tell ya we really need more little .32s like this. Recoil is so mild, these things are fun to shoot.

You made my day...I've only had 2.

Well, thanks to this goddam thread—and my *absolute* trust in Craig’s methodology—I’m now the proud owner of the used LCP custom (the one with the sights and red trigger) that I saw in my friendly LGS at some point before the holidays.

Nothing against the P32… it’s just that I’ve already got 1k+ rounds of .380 ball and a couple hundred rounds of underwood’s 90gr XTP loading laying around for G42 use. I don’t really want to stock any more .32 acp.

Plus, the LCP custom was right there in hand. An LCP in a patterned compliant hand beats a P32 in the bush, or some shit like that.

[Polecat]

JCN, that’s some good mojo! The more they have to process the better.

Would like to see some more bladed / surreptitious draws, draws or deployments from behind hats, magazines, newspapers, folded jackets, etc. Can’t wait for the site and content. Again, for the vast majority of us I think this is the essence.

How is that curve accuracy, reliability, recoil wise? Is it blowback or browning type?

[TCinVA]

Not shooting related, but I’ve played with turning on the phone screen while handing it over as an additional distraction if it’s dark out. Bright shiny screens can be distracting.

Especially if the screen shows something interesting. Like a picture of a scantily clad woman.

I'm also a fan of a money clip. The bad guy is looking for a payday. He's concerned about the haul. If you hand him something that's immediately visible as profit right off the bat, it's highly likely to draw his attention. His attention fixed where you want it when you want it there only helps you in this endeavor. A $100 on the outside with like $20 of 1's on the inside to give it some girth will probably make the dude look pretty hard.

The key seems to be at least two hand-overs of something he's expecting to habituate him to expecting you to produce payday. My thinking is that I want the wallet still on the table after those two hand-overs because it makes sense for me to reach for a wallet. If dude gets money clip, phone...well, I probably have a wallet so he's expecting that. Only he gets LCP instead. Thing 2 being an unexpected bonus (money clip) draws his attention away from what exactly I'm doing longer at the crucial moment.

Hell, some bad guys might start thumbing through the money clip right then and there to see what it is...

Thanks, asshole!

This is just my thinking, nothing I've bounced off of Craig directly but I'd imagine it's in line with his thinking on the matter.

[BillSWPA]

20 years ago I'd be really interested in the Taurus View, way to much recoil for my hands now, though I'm still curious how it will work for you.

I'd be interested in seeing how 22 &/or 32 Jframe/LCR performed for you on same shooting drill.

I had P32 for years but one handed shooting with it was just to problematic, no matter what I did with single hand grip it would shift under recoil, a 38 Jframe was easier to shoot well even with heavier recoil one handed because I had enough grip for my hand to actually hang on to.

The best way ai have found to make these pistols more controllable is with +0 finger extensions on the magazines. Kel-Tec also makes a +1 extension. I have tried both, and find the +1 to be noisier and the +0 to provide the greatest increase in controllability.

[Totem Polar]

This thread feels a bit like old-school P-F. I like it.

[valian]

Especially if the screen shows something interesting. Like a picture of a scantily clad woman.

I'm also a fan of a money clip. The bad guy is looking for a payday. He's concerned about the haul. If you hand him something that's immediately visible as profit right off the bat, it's highly likely to draw his attention. His attention fixed where you want it when you want it there only helps you in this endeavor. A $100 on the outside with like $20 of 1's on the inside to give it some girth will probably make the dude look pretty hard.

The key seems to be at least two hand-overs of something he's expecting to habituate him to expecting you to produce payday. My thinking is that I want the wallet still on the table after those two hand-overs because it makes sense for me to reach for a wallet. If dude gets money clip, phone...well, I probably have a wallet so he's expecting that. Only he gets LCP instead. Thing 2 being an unexpected bonus (money clip) draws his attention away from what exactly I'm doing longer at the crucial moment.

Hell, some bad guys might start thumbing through the money clip right then and there to see what it is...

Thanks, asshole!

This is just my thinking, nothing I've bounced off of Craig directly but I'd imagine it's in line with his thinking on the matter.

This is what I am doing. Always some cash in my shirt pocket. Nothing says compliance like some raw cash to start things off and you are right, it's also a great distraction for everything else that's coming. I also have a set of keys that go to nothing and a false wallet with some more cash but nothing else of value, sometimes even a junk cell phone.

[jandbj]

The best way ai have found to make these pistols more controllable is with +0 finger extensions on the magazines. Kel-Tec also makes a +1 extension. I have tried both, and find the +1 to be noisier and the +0 to provide the greatest increase in controllability.

Best P32 +0 is the one for a factory one for NAA 32. IIRC, it also their NAA .380 on also works on an LCP.