IDPA new 2024 rule book: holsters

[CraigS]

Getting way off subject here but some may enjoy this stage. Each year iwla (loosely idpa based) does a Battle of the Badges match. This year they had 2 stages w/ cars but w/ a twist. One stage had 2 cars nose to nose about 8ft apart. Start in the driver's seat of car 1 and shoot two targets standing just off each headlight...through the windshield. Out of the car, and, as you cross between the two hoods, shoot driver of car 2 through windshield. Continue toward the back of the car and shoot passenger in back seat through the LR window. Then continue to some more standard between walls shots. Beforehand I couldn't believe they were doing this but several of the guys are officers who said they train like this all the time. I was also surpised afterwards how well the glass held up to 80 shooters.

[Mirolynmonbro]

Getting way off subject here but some may enjoy this stage. Each year iwla (loosely idpa based) does a Battle of the Badges match. This year they had 2 stages w/ cars but w/ a twist. One stage had 2 cars nose to nose about 8ft apart. Start in the driver's seat of car 1 and shoot two targets standing just off each headlight...through the windshield. Out of the car, and, as you cross between the two hoods, shoot driver of car 2 through windshield. Continue toward the back of the car and shoot passenger in back seat through the LR window. Then continue to some more standard between walls shots. Beforehand I couldn't believe they were doing this but several of the guys are officers who said they train like this all the time. I was also surpised afterwards how well the glass held up to 80 shooters.

That sounds AMAZING

[CraigS]

I have been messing around trying different mounts for my diy kydex holster shells. And I keep picking up my ruler to check that 3inch measurement. I thought I liked that reg as it would be pretty cut and dried implementing it. Ahh, not so much. The main issue is how hard does one push in on the ruler? Even the skinniest guy w/ a light summer shirt could 'adjust' the ruler by 1/2inch easy. Now through at least the end of February, I will have on a t-shirt, and a heavy chamois shirt, and flannel lined jeans + my own built-in insulation. Heck I can 'adjust' the ruler over easily an inch and maybe 1.25 inches. Maybe I should use a tape measure like the illustration since that would be more difficult to push than a ruler. I messed w/ making my own 1/8" kydex mount but I decided to stick w/ a readily available mount to try to minimize questions. I am glad I only shoot local club matches. This summer it will be interesting to talk to guys who shoot higher level matches to see how they check the 3inch measurement, of if they even do check it..

[DAB]

as an IDPA SO, there is no way i'm going to worry about this 3" rule for local matches. we want people to show up, be safe, have fun shooting, and come back again. if they start talking about shooting a major match, i'll counsel them to check their gear before showing up to that match. so much for the 1 inch dowel....

[GyroF-16]

as an IDPA SO, there is no way i'm going to worry about this 3" rule for local matches. we want people to show up, be safe, have fun shooting, and come back again. if they start talking about shooting a major match, i'll counsel them to check their gear before showing up to that match. so much for the 1 inch dowel....

I’m with you on all of the above.
And I thought the dowel rule made sense, as it quantified and limited ”offset” that was unhelpful for concealing a weapon and only useful for “gaming”.

[DAB]

now, if they show up with a Serpa holster, we're going to have a short conversation about safety and finger placement.

if you want to be a "gamer", great, go for it. if you want to test your daily carry rig and your ability, great, go for it. those two shooter types are not going to finish that close together. most stages are long enough that a 1/2 second saved or spent on the draw will not make much difference in your final score. you have 18 shots to get off, 3 points of cover, some running around to do, movers to wait on.....

and what really gets me is the "new gamer" with his fancy gear, shooting the lights out....and then scoring begins, and he's 15 down for the stage. slow down son, get zeros and your score will be better. let's watch one of our "old farts" shoot the stage and be 2 down total, and still beat your score.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Serpas are truly scary for new folks. We had a newby and he could just not release the gun and his finger was heading for the trigger when he did. The SO told him to STOP! Also, there were several NDs with them.

The divide between a gaming and an SD realistic rig orientation is just the way it is nowadays. In club matches, get what you can out of the experience. I do worry that the game orientation discourages some folks from joining in. There needs to be a competition version of pickle ball.

[NETim]

Serpas are truly scary for new folks. We had a newby and he could just not release the gun and his finger was heading for the trigger when he did. The SO told him to STOP! Also, there were several NDs with them.

The divide between a gaming and an SD realistic rig orientation is just the way it is nowadays. In club matches, get what you can out of the experience. I do worry that the game orientation discourages some folks from joining in. There needs to be a competition version of pickle ball.

I am going to try to do just that at my local club this year. I am hoping to create a safe, informal, fun yet educational environment. It will heavily emphasize accuracy. I'm not sure what kind of turnout I'll get though. I'm also going to have a standard drill thrown in after the 2-3 simple stages I envision. El Prez's, Casinos, etc. Semi and revo divisions. Only two categories, youngsters and geezers (since I will be the MD.)

Going to use this target: https://shootsteel.com/product/cardb...s-pack-of-100/

[Jim Watson]

Some ranges disallow Serpa and similar, or require the latch to be removed or wedged open.

I saw a cop who had recently chosen one for off duty wear give himself a wedgie when he missed or forgot the latch at the buzzer and yanked futilely at his pistol.

[JCN]

I am going to try to do just that at my local club this year. I am hoping to create a safe, informal, fun yet educational environment. It will heavily emphasize accuracy. I'm not sure what kind of turnout I'll get though. I'm also going to have a standard drill thrown in after the 2-3 simple stages I envision. El Prez's, Casinos, etc. Semi and revo divisions. Only two categories, youngsters and geezers (since I will be the MD.)

Going to use this target: https://shootsteel.com/product/cardb...s-pack-of-100/

Consider using the PCSL target instead:

https://supervelammunition.com/pcsl-k-zone-target/

It has a much smaller scoring zone than IDPA and USPSA