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    You have two general types of locations: the large travel plazas on interstates and rest areas on two-lane secondary highways. The latter are becoming things of the past, as states don't have funding and personnel to maintain them. Unless you're really in some form of need, I just wouldn't stop at one. Typically, they're not well maintained and tend to be hangouts for the local criminal element. I definitely wouldn't sleep in my vehicle in those locations.

    The larger travel plazas/rest areas tend to be better maintained. These will typically feature a gas station with a convenience store, restaurant and truck park. The downside here is they tend to feature all of the city type crime we're familiar with. When I worked the Kansas Turnpike this is what we had. It was like having a small town every 30/40 miles.

    When frequenting these establishments AVOID THE TRUCK PARK. This is where the majority of the crime takes place: vandalism, rape, drug dealing, prostitution, etc. If you're thinking of parking your RV or vehicle in there to get some sleep don't do it. Unless you want pushers offering you dope, or lot lizards selling blow jobs knocking on your door every hour. Consider the truck park shitbag central, or the equivalent of Mos Eisley. A wretched hive of scum and villainy.

    If you stop with your family members: there's strength in the pack, stay together. Don't let your children even go to the rest room alone and men, always use a stall instead of a urinal. These places are very busy during peak travel season and it's very easy to lose your kids, permanently. In one year we had three kidnapping attempts at one such area. Two young women were nearly abducted by a human trafficking ring and one estranged father attempted to kidnap his daughter from his ex-wife. Fortunately, none of these were successful. So, keep everyone together and minimize the distance you get from your vehicle.

    If you're gasing up, everyone stays in the vehicle until you're finished, then you move the vehicle to the store front and everyone goes in together. Up thread, someone mentioned going in and checking things out first, while leaving the wife and child in the car. In reality, your wife was in more danger sitting in the car than you were going in. Stay together. Also, don't leave your vehicle unlocked and don't leave it running. You'd be agog at how often these two things occur.

    I don't want to give everyone a case of paranoia about using such facilities. Many of them are quite nice and are a source of state pride. In the vast majority of situations you'll make a stop without incident. It's not Mad Max World and there's no guarantee you'll meet the Toe Cutter at the slushy machine. Afterall, sometimes you just gotta go and maybe you just need some Beef Jerky and a Kansas key chain. Just keep your head on a swivel, stay together and if your inner voice is telling you it seems hinky, listen.

    Oh, and pack a gun. 😉
    Last edited by Trooper224; 01-22-2024 at 05:07 PM.
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    When frequenting these establishments AVOID THE TRUCK PARK.
    I always thought a good name for a band would be "Truck Stop Hookers". That's a thing, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    I definitely wouldn't sleep in my vehicle in those locations.
    Not exactly relevant to the rest area discussion (he was just in some random parking lot), but remember Michael Jordan's father was murdered while napping in his car. He did lots wrong, like being out of place in a luxury car with vanity plates that indicated who he was, but I am sure he thought it was probably not an issue. He was maybe also hammered (pulled over because he was "tired" after golfing all day), but he flat got shot by a couple of dirtbags that targeted him for his car and jewelry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    Oh, and pack a gun. 😉
    Sometimes I bring along a pocket gun, just in case I need to urgently crap before the day's travels are complete.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    lot lizards selling blow jobs knocking on your door every hour.
    That would be a little too frequent, even when I was in my twenties...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    I always thought a good name for a band would be "Truck Stop Hookers". That's a thing, right?
    I once watched an episode of Vice wherein they intended to send two pretty, young twenties, reporters undercover in a strip club. They chose a strip club at a truck stop out in the desert, in Nevada I think. The place was known as,"the place where strippers go to die." They were supposed to stay for two weeks, they lasted for forty-eight hours. It was awesome.
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    Trooper224: Good intel on the travel plaza's, I always felt fairly safe at those. The rest area between Lindsborg and McPherson on 135 and the one near Manhattan on 70 always made the hair on the back of my neck stand up a little.

    Generally, when we travel with the trailer I keep enough water in the tank to use that bathroom, if needed between gas stops. There is no way in hell I'm sleeping in a rest area or Walmart parking lot in my trailer. That's what they make KOA's and other such RV parks for, I'm not traveling to reenact The Grapes of Wrath, so I'm okay from that danger. Plus we usually have 220 pounds of GSD's with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    If you're gasing up, everyone stays in the vehicle until you're finished, then you move the vehicle to the store front and everyone goes in together. Up thread, someone mentioned going in and checking things out first, while leaving the wife and child in the car. In reality, your wife was in more danger sitting in the car than you were going in. Stay together. Also, don't leave your vehicle unlocked and don't leave it running. You'd be agog at how often these two things occur.
    This is what I often wonder. Whether she and my daughter are more at risk in the car or when inside. We don't travel at night but always leave the car running with the AC on and windows shut since we rotate inside because of the dogs. She is very good at keeping the doors locked and if I go in and only brought one gun, it stays in the car with her. The two dogs are usually kind of fired up with all of the commotion but they get extra riled up if someone is walking real close to the car, so there's almost a few extra sets of eyes. Of course, there's also a lot more commotion inside the car so its hectic and can be overwhelming. I get even more uncomfortable when she takes my daughter in, especially when its a large plaza with multiple exits. I'm really going to start pushing her more into carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDTSGM View Post
    Trooper224: Good intel on the travel plaza's, I always felt fairly safe at those. The rest area between Lindsborg and McPherson on 135 and the one near Manhattan on 70 always made the hair on the back of my neck stand up a little.

    Generally, when we travel with the trailer I keep enough water in the tank to use that bathroom, if needed between gas stops. There is no way in hell I'm sleeping in a rest area or Walmart parking lot in my trailer. That's what they make KOA's and other such RV parks for, I'm not traveling to reenact The Grapes of Wrath, so I'm okay from that danger. Plus we usually have 220 pounds of GSD's with us.
    We traveled in the west for four years with a trailer and used Walmart lots occasionally. Not my first choice but convienient and free. Better than a Pilot, Love's or Flying J. Never had a problem. I think the ones that have a high crime rate just don't let anyone stay overnight. It's private property after all so easy to restrict. We found that some Native American casinoes had excellent facilities for RV's at a reasonable price. Food was also good. That was awhile ago so things may have changed.

    The problem in CA is most travelers can't carry so it's especially hazardous just about anywhere you camp or stop. We stayed in a few campgrounds in CA but we avoided CA for the most part. Even with all the restrictions they have there, they still have a high homicide rate.
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    https://komonews.com/news/local/seat...b-10b0ad42209c

    I used to live in that neighborhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    https://komonews.com/news/local/seat...b-10b0ad42209c

    I used to live in that neighborhood.
    I was about 15-20 blocks west. That’s right near the Chubby& Tubby’s, isn’t it?
    Seems like Aurora has become rough once more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Luthier View Post
    I was about 15-20 blocks west. That’s right near the Chubby& Tubby’s, isn’t it?
    Seems like Aurora has become rough once more.
    I lived on 97th and 3rd Ave for awhile. Then 157th and 5th Ave. in the Shoreline area. I was always amazed at the numbers hookers on Aurora Ave. around 85th. I don't think I ever shopped in a Chubby and Tubby. I moved out of there after my vehicle was stolen...twice. I had a neighbor who was a drug dealer. Ether that or he had dozens of friends that stopped by to say hi everyday.
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