New York City councilwoman arrested for bringing gun to counter pro-Palestinian rally

[AMC]

My shooting buddy who just did Gunsite 250 with me lost his NYPD Academy class place back in 2007. He was an IT professional and had a leatherman wave on his belt. Cop stopped him outside penn station and he sat in the Tombs and had to paint benches in Washington square park. Judge told him his leatherman should have been left in the office neglecting to tell him HOW he should get it to the office. He now works in the defense industry in Virginia.

New York really is a commie shithole.

[camel]

New York really is a commie shithole.

Yea.

[fly out]

Is an outspoken 'pubbie in NYC really a part of the protected class of politicians? I'm skeptical. Highly skeptical.

I don't think this was Animal Farm. I think this was the system seeing that they had a problem on their hands with a bad law and bad facts.

I'm not saying that the prosecutor called the councilwoman's attorney and said, "hey, would you mind pulling the RSA before coming on in?" but I bet they weren't all that broken up about it, either.

Could be wrong. I'd have to be convinced, though.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I agree with that. I don't think NYC or NYS wanted to prosecute a Jewish local legislator or engage in a 2nd A possible court challenge.

[BehindBlueI's]

In other words after talking to her attorney she removed the recoil spring from the the gun before she turned herself in and surrendered the gun. If that even happened.

Definitely an “Animal Farm” moment.

Get beyond a reasonable doubt with a jury, or a judge who follows the law. We don't charge anyone for possession based on photos, social media videos, etc. We may use it as the basis for a search warrant for a serious violent felon in possession case, but no physical gun = no charges. Any half ass lawyer realizes they aren't under oath and are under no obligation to present the truth, only establish doubt. "Prove it's not an airsoft replica, detective." Done, your case is over. Client doesn't even have to claim it's an airsoft or take the stand, you can't get beyond a reasonable doubt because you can't prove it.

We *might* get it in if the gun is discharged in the video and there's evidence of impact, proving it's a real gun and functional. I've built exactly one case with video from a firing range, signature on a sign in sheet, and video of the clerk checking ID, suspect's face, firearm, etc. Armed robbery suspect, got him on the robbery and the felon in possession without ever having the actual firearm.

[WobblyPossum]

Get beyond a reasonable doubt with a jury, or a judge who follows the law. We don't charge anyone for possession based on photos, social media videos, etc. We may use it as the basis for a search warrant for a serious violent felon in possession case, but no physical gun = no charges. Any half ass lawyer realizes they aren't under oath and are under no obligation to present the truth, only establish doubt. "Prove it's not an airsoft replica, detective." Done, your case is over. Client doesn't even have to claim it's an airsoft or take the stand, you can't get beyond a reasonable doubt because you can't prove it.

We *might* get it in if the gun is discharged in the video and there's evidence of impact, proving it's a real gun and functional. I've built exactly one case with video from a firing range, signature on a sign in sheet, and video of the clerk checking ID, suspect's face, firearm, etc. Armed robbery suspect, got him on the robbery and the felon in possession without ever having the actual firearm.

Jives with my experience as well. I’ve gotten search warrants based on photos of prohibited people with guns but, without the actual gun I couldn’t even get charges filed.