Kimber KDS9c - what the DW DWX Compact should have been

[Tackleberry40sw]

May be missing something as I am more familiar with polymer guns, but the G17 I'd a 17 lb spring

I preface this with I am no expert. I did not stay in a HolidayInn last night either. Yes, Glocks and other striker fired pistols do run recoil springs in the 17 pound range. From what I have seen, Governement Models and Commanders normally run recoil springs in 11-13 pound range. Everyones mileage may vary.

[MandoWookie]

I preface this with I am no expert. I did not stay in a HolidayInn last night either. Yes, Glocks and other striker fired pistols do run recoil springs in the 17 pound range. From what I have seen, Governement Models and Commanders normally run recoil springs in 11-13 pound range. Everyones mileage may vary.

Those guns are 1911s chambered in 9mm, and it has to have 9mm pushing a 45 size slide and possibly barrel( I know older Colt 1911s used smaller diameter barrels) reliably.
As we can see from the video, the Kimber is 1911esque, but not a 1911.
Another thing that may play into it is how much resistance does having to recock the hammer have. I know that was another thing brought up in 9mm 1911s.

[BillSWPA]

My preference for grip safeties on 1911’s comes from having accidentally wiped off the thumb safety twice while carrying one. A well-designed grip safety should not cause any problems with deactivating when the gun is grasped.

[G19Fan]

My preference for grip safeties on 1911’s comes from having accidentally wiped off the thumb safety twice while carrying one. A well-designed grip safety should not cause any problems with deactivating when the gun is grasped.

This makes a ton of sense

[HeavyDuty]

I don't see how the lack of grip safety affects it negatively for threat management. I know plenty of guys who carried 1911s thst pinned the grip safety

It’s outside my own personal level of comfort.

[Navin Johnson]

I don't see how the lack of grip safety affects it negatively for threat management. I know plenty of guys who carried 1911s thst pinned the grip safety

I have 1911s with triggers that are in the same weight range as P365s and P320s and VP nines and GPT’s. So I am not sure in today’s world why a grip safety let alone a thumb safety on a 1911 is necessary?

Yes, that is sarcastic. My 365 has a TS. For some reason it’s OK for a polymer gun with a 4 pound trigger to not have a safety but by God a 1911 without two safeties is blasphemy.

[G19Fan]

It’s outside my own personal level of comfort.

This makes sense. I am primarily striker fired no safety (in fact all we own except a lcr 22) but depending on 1911 trigger weight I can see why this gets squirrelly

[YVK]

I could never come up with an explanation that I myself could believe about any grip safety benefits on a series 80 1911. This Kimber looks like a series 80 thing so for me personally the absent grip safety is not a big deal.
Ineffective checkering and absence of adapter plates are bigger concerns.

[Robinson]

……Are Kimber’s good now?

Haven’t seen one in a LGS in years

I've owned a couple Kimbers in the last couple of years -- full size 1911s without the firing pin safety -- and they were totally fine. Don't remember them ever having a malfunction of any kind.

[BillSWPA]

My concern with a 1911 or similar gun is not just the trigger pull weight. The length of the trigger pull is also quite short.