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    I would be happy to shoot a match, but I imagine it'll take a while before it gets to Louisiana. I have the local USPSA club-they're unlikely to change, there's a outlaw club a couple of hours away with some great people, there's an outlaw two-gun match about the same distance away in the opposite direction that I've shot before and will shoot again once it cools off a bit, and I'm starting to train for PRS/NRL- so while I'd welcome the opportunity to shoot a PCSL match, and I do think the timing is right for an experienced team to create a new action shooting sport, I feel like I'll probably have to wait a while to give it a try.
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    The thing that concerns me about the "one shot to the K zone" is the likelihood that people will fire one shot then peer at the target to see if they hit the K. I have seen it happen, there is a local outlaw match requiring two A hits to neutralize and there is a lot of peering going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    The thing that concerns me about the "one shot to the K zone" is the likelihood that people will fire one shot then peer at the target to see if they hit the K. I have seen it happen, there is a local outlaw match requiring two A hits to neutralize and there is a lot of peering going on.
    They'll get over that habit if they want to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    The thing that concerns me about the "one shot to the K zone" is the likelihood that people will fire one shot then peer at the target to see if they hit the K. I have seen it happen, there is a local outlaw match requiring two A hits to neutralize and there is a lot of peering going on.
    Yeah, and some people listen/watch for steel, in USPSA. It's costs them time. The guys at the top of the pack know they have to call the shot and either move on, or shoot a make up, based on the sight(s). I am trying to call my shots 100% of the time, but like lots of stuff in shooting, "its simple, but not easy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    The thing that concerns me about the "one shot to the K zone" is the likelihood that people will fire one shot then peer at the target to see if they hit the K. I have seen it happen, there is a local outlaw match requiring two A hits to neutralize and there is a lot of peering going on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    They'll get over that habit if they want to win.
    Agree. Itís the same thing as looking at IDPA targets to see if youíre -0 and taking make up shots after.

    It only works if the competition is stinky.

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    Right, but I am not talking about what We Experts do, I am talking about what John Q Public does and this is a setup that encourages it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    Right, but I am not talking about what We Experts do, I am talking about what John Q Public does and this is a setup that encourages it.
    Again, howís that different from the other games? If people canít call their shots based on the sights and they want two A or -0 hits, they still have to look at the target. This doesnít encourage the idea any more than USPSA or IDPA do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WobblyPossum View Post
    Again, howís that different from the other games?
    It is the difference between one and two shots.
    John Q is going to be tempted to try for that one K and then look for it, losing the advantage of a one hit win; where he might be learning to fire twice at a USPSA or IDPA and move on.

    GADPA had a complicated target with different areas and different numbers of hits that struck me the same way. I see they have gone back to IDPA, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    It is the difference between one and two shots.
    John Q is going to be tempted to try for that one K and then look for it, losing the advantage of a one hit win; where he might be learning to fire twice at a USPSA or IDPA and move on.
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    Sorry, but that makes no sense. The same person who would be tempted to look at the target, to ensure they got max points, will do it whether its one shot to a "K", two to an " A", or two to a "-0."

    If you want them to "learn" something, they need to learn how to know if the shot is good as soon as it breaks, not "spray and pray" two, and drive on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    It is the difference between one and two shots.
    John Q is going to be tempted to try for that one K and then look for it, losing the advantage of a one hit win; where he might be learning to fire twice at a USPSA or IDPA and move on.

    GADPA had a complicated target with different areas and different numbers of hits that struck me the same way. I see they have gone back to IDPA, though.
    Honestly thatís been the main reason Iíve stayed away from PCSL.

    Itís a different programming from what Iím used to and itís not necessarily based off what would actually happen so it winds up being a particular game specific method for me.

    It would take a lot for me to switch. Regardless of leadership, I still really like the USPSA and IDPA products (and people).

    I identify more with USPSA and IDPA than 3 gunners in general.

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