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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    Sure. It's absolutely next level nanny state. See: https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20220920.aspx

    Note they also want to use in car cameras to monitor your eye movement and other signs of fatigue. All based on a computer in your car deciding if you're good to drive or not. No thanks.
    I'm all for it. Between the aged, half-blind, drunk, high, incompetent, uninsured, unlicensed, and distracted drivers here, I dodge two to three accidents every single day. None of them will regulate their own behavior, so let their car do it for them.
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    Another option:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s-gx550-drive/

    The imbedded video is pretty good. The humor of its location as the Scottsdale/Carefree horse country is subtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD View Post
    Oh, I see! Well, thank you very much for the information!
    Aren't batteries and related tech like your whole wheelhouse or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcbusmc24 View Post
    Aren't batteries and related tech like your whole wheelhouse or something...
    Yeah, but he watched a YouTube video!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    Note they also want to use in car cameras to monitor your eye movement and other signs of fatigue. All based on a computer in your car deciding if you're good to drive or not. No thanks.
    We just got a 2023 Transit Connect that is a cargo configuration, so it ostensibly a commercial vehicle, and occasionally it pops up a notice something like Rest Recommended. Has yet to ever do it when I was tired...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmc45414 View Post
    We just got a 2023 Transit Connect that is a cargo configuration, so it ostensibly a commercial vehicle, and occasionally it pops up a notice something like Rest Recommended. Has yet to ever do it when I was tired...
    My 2020 Ranger has the same system. According to Ford, it bases the "alertness" warnings on what the camera above the mirror sees the vehicle doing in relation to the lane markings. I imagine it uses steering wheel inputs too because another nanny-system nags at me to keep my hands on the wheel when I'm driving dead straight and don't have a death grip on the wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnar_d View Post
    It bases the "alertness" warnings on what the camera above the mirror sees the vehicle doing in relation to the lane markings.
    Hmmmm, come to think about it, I do not remember getting that warning since (during about the fifth week of ownership) I backed into a pole and crunched the left rear sensor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Another option:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s-gx550-drive/

    The imbedded video is pretty good. The humor of its location as the Scottsdale/Carefree horse country is subtle.
    That is an interesting option. The trade-off seems to be lower gas mileage (17 MPG) with a non-hybrid, more traditional power plant, versus a hybrid engine with 23 mpg and unknown, durability and reliability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    That is an interesting option. The trade-off seems to be lower gas mileage (17 MPG) with a non-hybrid, more traditional power plant, versus a hybrid engine with 23 mpg and unknown, durability and reliability?
    I don't know too much about passenger applications, but I will point out that the uber drivers I've talked to love the Prius. A hybrid pulls a ton of work off the ICE plant, giving all of the heavy torque loading to the battery, which makes the whole system last longer (apparently). That does match up with what my customers in the transit bus market say about their historical hybrids (though they're very dismissive of hybrids, considering it time wasted on the way to an inevitable ZEV transition).
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