Given that there have been two Battles of the Atlantic between the US/UK/CAN and the Kriegsmarine in the last 100 years, finding a debris field at the bottom isn't remarkable, unless they can see what kind of debris it is. (Not to mention all of the other ships that have been wrecked and sunk in those waters.)
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
I’m not even sure they really knew the risks.
If you asked the CEO about the risk of death on this particular dive…
He might have said <1%.
Whereas the reality might have been 20-50%.
I don’t doubt the passengers took his ego-blinded assessment as fact.
Like I’m aware of the deadly risks I face driving on the highway, but I put that at <0.1% or less.
If you told me 20-50%, I’d stay at home more….
Absolutely true. I made my "Jeopardy!" wager based on the people conducting the search are some serious pro's in that arena.
I would expect that they are screening their press releases to avoid the instance that you mentioned. If nothing else, at least in the realm of Institutional Protectionism.
I could be wrong, they could be wrong, and maybe the "bathtub of death" gets hauled to the surface with 5, very much alive, but with seriously shit-stained knickers.
And that WOULD be a great alternative outcome.
"And for a regular dude I’m maybe okay...but what I learned is if there’s a door, I’m going out it not in it"-Duke
"Just because a girl sleeps with her brother doesn't mean she's easy..."-Blues
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
The dismissive attitude towards tradition and the idea that they can innovate their way around decades of established science is the Theranos thing I'm picking up on. I suspect Liz originally did plan on making her magic box work, and turned to fraud when it became apparent it wasn't actually going to work.
Both went charging down the road full throttle, ignoring the warning signs until they crashed hard.
"You win 100% of the fights you avoid. If you're not there when it happens, you don't lose." - William Aprill
"I've owned a guitar for 31 years and that sure hasn't made me a musician, let alone an expert. It's made me a guy who owns a guitar."- BBI
I wonder how many people who get on rides at the local fair or carnival have thought about whether the people setting it up and working on it are competent, or care about whether they take shortcuts?
I remember wondering the same thing about the guy who packed my chute the first time I jumped from a small Cessna at 3,000 feet.
There's nothing civil about this war.
Follow the process. I could work for you.
In my very small volunteer role, our team has only had one major disagreement.... On an occasion when an actionable trigger was reached, but the on duty team decided, not unreasonably, not to take the prescribed action. "There obviously wasn't a real danger." Most of the team was ready to walk away if we didn't follow the process. In the end, we fixed the process and agreed that it was policy to follow every step, and fix something that needed fixing as an after-action.
ETA... Just wanted to acknowledge... There's a big difference between following the process in a safety role vs an innovative environment.
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"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
Way OT, but I can both vouch for, and pile on to, your idea. A couple of years ago, some “successful” university people with terminal degrees in something other than business decided that it took too many “person hours” to issue contracts to part-time class instructors. So they stopped, and instead issued blank form letters with “TBA” and “TBD” in the columns where actual classes, workloads, and especially term pay, used to be.
Which made great logistical sense to the minds that birthed the novel idea, who are only now finding out that they also birthed a labor law hydra, and incurred reasonably horrific liability for the institution.
So, yeah, that vesica piscis where hubris meets Dunning and Krueger. It’s a thing anywhere the arrogant and ignorant gather.
Back on topic, at this point, structural failure is the least worst option. At least the 5 never knew what happened, if true.
”But in the end all of these ideas just manufacture new criminals when the problem isn't a lack of criminals.” -JRB