BBI talks about it here. The salient points are:
Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's
BBI talks about it here. The salient points are:
Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's
I think so. The grip, trigger, and sights are pretty different.
I think the question is would I, and I don't know. I don't think what I do is that different from what you quoted. It's two fast, two slow (relatively), one final. Assessment ongoing but a definite pause after the 5th regardless.
What if there's multiple opponents? Not everyone in a fight is a fighter. Some people are just carried along. The guy trying to kill me is clearly a fighter.
I don't think I'm capable of assessing much after two other than there's still a threat in my picture. I don't think I'm capable of determining whether I brained someone or took a piece of their cheekbone out after a third. They're either there or they're not. I just think there's a middle ground between mag dump and double tap.
I will say shooting USPSA can definitely help with things like assessment at speed. I've registered less-than-ideal shots on targets and made it up with a better shot, even though it may not have helped me in the overall scheme of the game itself.
One drill I really, really like for cognitive load/problem solving is the "Blue Falcon Drill" that JLW's agency uses (or at least did when I took his class several years back). Class was broken in to at least two groups, one group sets up targets for the other and there's no kind of walk-through or heads up about it. There's no-shoots you're not allowed to even muzzle and some targets thrown in that screwed up several folks's OODA (myself included).
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Im really enjoying this thread.
I'm a former SAW gunner. My first hunt after getting out had me unloading my marlin m60 into a rabbit.
I remember sitting there kinda laughing, kind disappointed in myself. Since then I've been a vocal proponent of fighting at assessment speed. Add in bouncing and working in psych hospitals and I've had to throttle back, and then throttle back up violence per my assessments. Then with a full adrenaline dump, bleeding, have to reconstitute zyprexa or draw up a med from a broken ampule.
As for shooting. Yeah, I like bill drills but I'm not thinking I'm going to do that in a fight. It's just a skill to have.
The modern mag dump training is fun but unfortunately to many people do it and accept it as gospel because they have no experience or their experience is over seas where hosing people down was ok.
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And the home of the wolf shall be my home - Robert Service
For years (seems like they all got shot up and we haven't replaced them) we had a basket full of toys that included cameras and binoculars and guns and telephones and such with nails glued to them so they could be pushed into cardboard targets while the next shooter has their back turned. The toys included a police badge, and our group includes several LE folks who from time to time would invite a coworker to join us. It is sobering how frequently the target with a toy gun and the toy police badge took rounds.
I think what you have said is realistic. I’ve never been combat. But shooting. outside your decision making speed within of a use of force paradigm. Is realistic and comes from either experience or really. Hardcore training. Very few people have the ability to have used force in a situational setting.
It’s a totally different mindset.
An assessment pause should be what is your target doing at the point where you have assembled the rounds on the target and then asses the whole situation. That is even tougher to train.
Last edited by camel; 07-18-2023 at 09:34 PM.