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    shot #1: justified? shot #2: manslaughter?

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    This was a recent shooting in a rural town in western MA. Shooter is a licensed gun owner with LTC being charged with manslaughter after shooting a home invader in the back of the head 8 minutes after shooting him initially in the torso.

    Awakened by stairs creaking, Camp confronted Letendre and a struggle ensued, Gagne said. At some point, Camp, who lawfully owned several firearms, grabbed a Sig Sauer P365 semiautomatic pistol and shot Letendre in the torso. Letendre then fell to the floor, where investigators believe he remained. Neither Camp nor his girlfriend reported that Letendre said anything about what he was doing there.

    Camp’s girlfriend had already called 911, and Gagne said the line remained open for several minutes.

    “We contend you can hear the first gunshot,” he said. After 8½ minutes, the girlfriend can be heard screaming that another shot has been fired, Gagne said, though audio evidence of the shot is unclear.

    That second shot, to the back of the head while Camp was lying on the kitchen floor, which Gagne termed “extremely troubling,” was the focus of the investigation.

    “The grand jury was asked to consider the legality of the second shot,” he said, because the first shot was considered to be self-defense.
    Was Camp holding the wounded suspect at gunpoint and negligently discharged into the back of Letendre's head as a result of adrenaline/stress? Did Camp shoot the 2nd shot as a result of anger/aggression? Either way, looks like he is boned. Even in MA, the first shot could have been considered a legal self defense shooting as the DA mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shootist26 View Post
    https://www.gazettenet.com/Suspect-i...harge-51187047

    This was a recent shooting in a rural town in western MA. Shooter is a licensed gun owner with LTC being charged with manslaughter after shooting a home invader in the back of the head 8 minutes after shooting him initially in the torso.



    Was Camp holding the wounded suspect at gunpoint and negligently discharged into the back of Letendre's head as a result of adrenaline/stress? Did Camp shoot the 2nd shot as a result of anger/aggression? Either way, looks like he is boned. Even in MA, the first shot would have been considered a legal self defense shooting as the DA mentioned.
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    So, without knowing state laws, and without any other information given, everything else is speculation.

    It’s a great lesson about knowing your own states laws, and keeping your mouth shut. Video cameras inside your house could be a friend or a foe.

    This could’ve been a re-engagement by the intruder

    This could’ve been a lack of trigger finger discipline, and an unforgiving trigger

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    Not enough info to form an opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Johnson View Post
    So, without knowing state laws, and without any other information given, everything else is speculation.

    It’s a great lesson about knowing your own states laws, and keeping your mouth shut. Video cameras inside your house could be a friend or a foe.

    This could’ve been a re-engagement by the intruder

    This could’ve been a lack of trigger finger discipline, and an unforgiving trigger
    An unforgiving trigger is just that. You made a
    Decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie john View Post
    Not enough info to form an opinion.


    Okie John
    Agreed.

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    I do not know the specifics of this eventual shit show.
    Other than someone got shot in the back of the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navin Johnson View Post
    So, without knowing state laws, and without any other information given, everything else is speculation.

    It’s a great lesson about knowing your own states laws, and keeping your mouth shut. Video cameras inside your house could be a friend or a foe.

    This could’ve been a re-engagement by the intruder

    This could’ve been a lack of trigger finger discipline, and an unforgiving trigger
    Tell me when it’s a reingament of a shooter.and not some bullshit of. something

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie john View Post
    Not enough info to form an opinion.


    Okie John

    This ^^^.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camel View Post
    An unforgiving trigger is just that. You made a
    Decision.


    At the P-F enthusiasts level there is some thought provoking truth to that.
    For the average pistol toter, not so much. Witness the fully tensioned striker trend, The vast Glock trigger aftermarket, the lack of TDA traction across the decades, and the immortal 1911 trigger.
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