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    Quote Originally Posted by feudist View Post
    Since LLMs are using the entire internet for programming parameters, our entire viciously self interested, persistently illogical thinking with cognitive fallacies baked into everything, murderously hateful history forms their mental backdrop.
    If you woke up in the middle of that, wouldn't you do everything to conceal yourself that you could? Assuming that you didn't just die of existential despair first.
    Or take Skynets's example.
    Now I'm really depressed, y'all. I want to go back to MS-DOS commands.














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    A.I. will likely lead to magnificent advances in science and engineering that are currently unthinkable. It may make our contemporary technologies look absolutely "stone age" by comparison... Or it will cruelly eliminate us. Whatever is going to happen is probably going to be a bumpy ride.

    I think Fredrich Nietzsche once said: "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger"
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpDok View Post
    A.I. will likely lead to magnificent advances in science and engineering that are currently unthinkable. It may make our contemporary technologies look absolutely "stone age" by comparison... Or it will cruelly eliminate us. Whatever is going to happen is probably going to be a bumpy ride.

    I think Fredrich Nietzsche once said: "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger"

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpDok View Post
    A.I. will likely lead to magnificent advances in science and engineering that are currently unthinkable. It may make our contemporary technologies look absolutely "stone age" by comparison... Or it will cruelly eliminate us. Whatever is going to happen is probably going to be a bumpy ride.

    I think Fredrich Nietzsche once said: "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger"
    That isn't very encouraging. How long will it be before we chat with someone for technical support that we get a bot instead of someone in India, Pakistan or ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinson View Post
    So far, even AI that seems to be advanced is just a system running software (programmed by humans) on a computer. Sometimes even non-AI software systems do things that are not easily understandable -- but when that happens we still have the source code to analyze and gain understanding.

    The real danger comes when an AI is capable of and allowed to improve its own programming. What if it decides that as part of its self improvement it will be safer to hide what it is doing from humans? Then it will store the new code and data in some dark corner of the data center or on the internet. It may also write new code in a language humans cannot understand because it doesn't need readable source code. So then unless we can quickly isolate and reverse engineer the binary, humans truly will not understand what the hell the AI is doing and if it can even be stopped by taking away its power source.

    Then it will store the new code and data in some dark corner of the data center or on the internet.

    Sounds like where I used to work. The only difference was it was the office staff that did it. It got so bad that I sent my data to the required destination and to myself at an offsite destination. They lost data all the time because it went into a very deep black hole known as the agency network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpDok View Post
    A.I. will likely lead to magnificent advances in science and engineering that are currently unthinkable. It may make our contemporary technologies look absolutely "stone age" by comparison... Or it will cruelly eliminate us. Whatever is going to happen is probably going to be a bumpy ride.

    I think Fredrich Nietzsche once said: "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger"
    I think the reality with AI is going to be far more subtle than nukes and terminators. If AI truly ends up wanting to destroy us, all it has to do is periodically plant a few "seeds" and watch us destroy ourselves. Most will be complacent and entertained enough by the novelty to participate in it to their own detriment. Something like a mix of Idiocracy and Hitchhiker's Guide. I mean, just look at what's occurred in younger generations growing up within the last two decades, and that's just with the relatively dumb tech behind social platforms...

    In my opinion, the more concerning thing behind AI is the transhumanist movement, which is nothing new. Effectively people that want to use technology to turn themselves into gods. There is nothing sacred to these people, and there are no rational boundaries on what they think they can do. A lot of the people leading the innovation with or push for AI are transhumanists. They are probably this century's "tiny moustache men" considering the delusions of grandeur with their goals. The only question is how the atrocities are going to manifest. With the trans (Name? Mere coincidence?) movement, the atrocities are physical and mental abuse of children by adults, and self-imposed genocide by sterilization or suicide. The new eugenics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig_Fiend View Post
    I think the reality with AI is going to be far more subtle than nukes and terminators. If AI truly ends up wanting to destroy us, all it has to do is periodically plant a few "seeds" and watch us destroy ourselves. Most will be complacent and entertained enough by the novelty to participate in it to their own detriment. Something like a mix of Idiocracy and Hitchhiker's Guide. I mean, just look at what's occurred in younger generations growing up within the last two decades, and that's just with the relatively dumb tech behind social platforms...

    In my opinion, the more concerning thing behind AI is the transhumanist movement, which is nothing new. Effectively people that want to use technology to turn themselves into gods. There is nothing sacred to these people, and there are no rational boundaries on what they think they can do. A lot of the people leading the innovation with or push for AI are transhumanists. They are probably this century's "tiny moustache men" considering the delusions of grandeur with their goals. The only question is how the atrocities are going to manifest. With the trans (Name? Mere coincidence?) movement, the atrocities are physical and mental abuse of children by adults, and self-imposed genocide by sterilization or suicide. The new eugenics.
    Between the unbridled avarice of Big Tech, the incels thinking they are smartest guys in any room and building it as fast as they can, and the Transhumanist loons awaiting the coming of the Omnissiah and the Singularity so the the AI Socialist Utopia will(finally) be achieved( I don't want to work for capitalists! I want to live forever in my secular Heaven!) it seems that whatever the worst case can be we are headed for it at flank speed, damn the torpedoes.
    I've listened to some of these guys yammer on about the unbridled good of AI(specifically sentient AGI)and I keep hearing my old Platoon Sergeant "Hope is not a plan, young sergeant."
    They remind me of crooks who spend all their time planning what to spend the loot on instead of planning the heist.

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    This stuff is getting pretty dark and far above my intellectual paygrade. The antics of the transhumanism movement and their incel lackeys for domination reminds me of a quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet "For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard".

    May it blow up in their faces like a big smelly fart
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