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    Federal non-duty bonded 64 gr SP 5.56

    I just ordered some of this: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1026091053?pid=981215. Any thoughts on what would make it non-duty?
    Thanks,
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJN View Post
    I just ordered some of this: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1026091053?pid=981215. Any thoughts on what would make it non-duty?
    Thanks,
    Jon


    The description is pretty clear:

    Non-duty bonded training analog for LE duty ammo
    QC standards are higher for duty ammo and / or the bullets themselves are sone sort of blemish or QC rejects.

    Doesn’t mean it won’t shoot ok for range /traning. Soft point ammo is not the best for accuracy regardless.

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    The 64 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullet used in this load . . .









    62 grain TBBC on the left for comparison . . .




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    I just bought some pulls that look like the non-bonded bullet, right down to the boat tail. I got them cheap enough that I'm not out anything, but at least I now know exactly what I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 358156hp View Post
    I just bought some pulls that look like the non-bonded bullet,

    Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullets are bonded bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon View Post
    Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullets are bonded bullets.

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    Molon,

    The Federal load in the first post has me confused, it's described as a non-bonded practice load in the ads description, then as "bonded" further down. My bullets are 64 gr, and "T" marked on the base. Should they be bonded then? Does TB even offer a non-bonded bullet?

    I apologize for sounding so obtuse, but that ad has me puzzled.

    Thank you!
    Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem
    I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude
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    Quote Originally Posted by 358156hp View Post
    Molon,

    The Federal load in the first post has me confused, it's described as a non-bonded practice load in the ads description, then as "bonded" further down. My bullets are 64 gr, and "T" marked on the base. Should they be bonded then? Does TB even offer a non-bonded bullet?


    Thank you!
    The add says "Non-duty bonded training analog for LE duty ammo"

    If the base of the bullet is stamped with a "T" that means that it is a Trophy Bonded Bear Claw or a Trophy Bonded Tip.











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    Quote Originally Posted by 358156hp View Post
    Molon,

    The Federal load in the first post has me confused, it's described as a non-bonded practice load in the ads description, then as "bonded" further down. My bullets are 64 gr, and "T" marked on the base. Should they be bonded then? Does TB even offer a non-bonded bullet?

    I apologize for sounding so obtuse, but that ad has me puzzled.

    Thank you!
    I'll also note that when I reached to Federal, the guy on the phone confirmed that this was using a bonded bullet.

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    Thank you, I'll quit over analyzing this.

    Much appreciated!
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    -Thomas Jefferson
    I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.

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    While the “ND” in the product number indicates the non duty status for this ammo is from the factory, it’s not uncommon to see duty ammo traded in by agencies for sale at a discount with “not for duty use” caveats simply because the seller has no control / info on the conditions under which the ammo might have been stored. “It’s probably fine” is mot acceptable for a life/safety application.

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