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So many options the savage 99 in .300 savage has been mentioned a Remington 600/660 .350 Remington mag, 1874 sharps .45-120, uberti 1885 Courtney stalking rifle in .303 British, or a trapdoor Springfield. There’s a few more but there black powder that I would go for
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How much are you asking for the Spanish beauty?Originally Posted by HeavyDuty
A good milsurp '98 Mauser in 7x57 would be my choice for the affordable (though maybe not so affordable nowadays) "Swiss army knife" of rifles. Wouldn't matter if it was stock or sporterized thoughtfully. Strong, reliable, safe, capable of dealing with most vertebrates on the vertebrate spectrum, but not too brutal to go pot cans in the pasture with. Easy to craft a variety of decent handloads that are accurate, too.But I don't know which one. I don't know much about my new rifle except that it won't be any variant of an AR, because boring. I also want an at least somewhat obscure smokeless powder-burning caliber. I want iron sights on it. I don't have an opinion on whether it should accept a scope as originally produced. I don't want it to be a lever action. Unsure about detachable mags. I think it should have a wood stock, but can be swayed on that. I'll use it for looking at, and possibly to shoot holes in paper at whatever range is reasonable for it. It should be beautiful. The cartridge should either be very big and very slow, or of whatever size (larger than .224 diameter) and of whatever speed, but no pistol calibers. Wildcats are OK. Belted mags are OK. Metric is OK. Centerfire and I'll reload for it. I already have a lot of .25-20's, so not that caliber. Can be new production or from 120 years ago. No SBR's or NFA items. I want to spend less than $2500 on the rifle itself.
What would you buy given these random constraints?
(ETA: there is nothing wrong with the earlier '93 Mausers in 7x57 either, but I prefer the '98 pattern.)
To be honest, any of the quality modern bolt guns in 7x57 or 7mm-08 Remington would probably work, but finding ones with irons is now tough. If Ruger would make their Scout Rifle in 7mm-08 and operators would pair it with a good LPVO, it would be - IMO - a very useful and easy to live with multitool to use over one's lifetime. I have myself toyed with the idea of getting a .308 Ruger GSR with a Vortex Razor (or similar) and selling every other rifle in the house, but I do not like the .308 well enough to do so.
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It's really a shame CZ stopped making these. Even though it maybe doesn't meet all the criteria
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Absent that, and given the ambiguity of the pursuit, finding yourself a true pre-64 Winchester M70 with iron sights would have some great pride of ownership.
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I vote for an 1885 Hi Wall in .45-70. However, I love my Ruger #1.
Regarding old surplus rifles, I like the Enfield's, though I have more time with Mausers. An engineer's carbine of some flavor would be nice to have. 1891 Mausers are the classiest looking, IMO.
Having said all of that a T3x in .223 is still next on my rifle list.
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I had one in .22 Hornet with the factory single set trigger. Another I should have held on to...It's really a shame CZ stopped making these. Even though it maybe doesn't meet all the criteria
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The problem with both surplus and Ruger rifles in 7x57 is they have the longer throat to accommodate the original military loading with the longer and heavier (170-180 grain) bullets. The problem is, if you’re not a hand loader, current production 7x57 is 139/140 grain. It works if all you need is minute of deer at 100 yards, but there is a noticeable difference in accuracy when shooting the ladder bullet loads out of guns chambered for the heavier bullets.
In my Ruger 77 group size doubles going from heavy bullets to lighter bullets.
7mm-08 is a great round but mostly a hand load proposition.
My vote is for a nice swedish Mauser or Swiss K31.
I'm also fond of my Finnish M39 for shooting on a KD range.
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