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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Every Mass Shooting Shares One Thing In Common & It’s NOT Weapons:

    https://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/eve...#axzz7xCEH5s3c

    When big pharma is allowed to change the truth about the side effects of their toxic products from "Will cause Homicidal and suicidal thoughts" TO "May cause unhealthy thoughts" should of been a massive red flag.
    I believe 98 out of 100 of the last mass shootings the shooter was on their product. There is a guy that did extensive research on this subject but I cant remember his name, I will research it and post up his findings.

    https://debateandshare.com/antipsych...ass-shootings/

    You can also research a documentary called "Psychiatry, an industry of death" Good stuff...
    That’s a chicken/egg argument. Millions of Americans are on some sort of anti-depressant/anxiolytic medication, and would never think of committing any form of atrocity.

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    The church that runs this school is known locally as being very conservative. It's been reported that the shooter attended the school at one point. The school is not the kind of place where a trans person would do well.

    In addition, tensions have been high locally due to a pending drag show bill (prohibiting minor attendance) being argued breathlessly by both sides of that issue.

    Local police say they found a manifesto from the shooter and this was a targeted attack, but haven't elaborated on that point yet.
    Ordinary guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totem Polar View Post
    ^^^

    Stop the bus, driver, I think I want to get off here…

    Things really are insane.
    Are they really?

    You have human beings who, for whatever reason, hates their life so much that they begin hating life. And they hate life so much that they want to hurt it and the best way to hurt it, in their mind, is to attack those most innocent in life.

    That's not really new as far as I can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankB View Post
    That’s a chicken/egg argument. Millions of Americans are on some sort of anti-depressant/anxiolytic medication, and would never think of committing any form of atrocity.
    Thats just contempt prior to investigation by using a logical fallacy, typical juvenile knee jerk reaction. How do you know for sure that none of them have NEVER thought of harming another person? Did you ask them all Frank??? And what does that even have to do with the FACT that almost ALL of the shooters are on those toxic products and it is a documented fact about those listed side effects... Try again Frank, this time do some research of your own, the proof is there.

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    I haven't kept up with TN law since I left in 2014, but at that time school carry was strictly prohibited. It was a little bit of an issue for me because the church I attended housed a school. I was never sure of the legality of carrying there. At that time, carry in some places, like public parks, was determined on a county by county basis. All in all, it wasn't a particularly carry friendly state then. Hopefully the laws have improved, though it's too late to help with today's shooting. The goal of stopping all school shootings is simply not realistic, but there are a lot of partial fixes that could be implemented simultaneously which would have a meaningful effect.

    Regarding the transgender issues, I was really surprised when I read earlier that this shooting was carried out by a female. Makes more sense now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    Sigh, what is this a projective test? I meant that the team went in immediately and obviously that was a comparison to Uvalde. The talking heads commented on the professionalism and organized quick response as compared to the failures in TX.
    We know what you meant…thank god the nashville cops weren’t worthless fucks like uvalde

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Thats just contempt prior to investigation by using a logical fallacy, typical juvenile knee jerk reaction. How do you know for sure that none of them have NEVER thought of harming another person? Did you ask them all Frank??? And what does that even have to do with the FACT that almost ALL of the shooters are on those toxic products and it is a documented fact about those listed side effects... Try again Frank, this time do some research of your own, the proof is there.
    Maybe, maybe not. Correlation is not always causation.

    Having actually investigated mass shootings (rather than conducting internet research) even in terms of correlation, the only 100% correlation I’ve seen is the shooters all have grievances.

    For the record I’m not a fan of psychotropic drugs and have seen a correlation between stopping them abruptly and suicide so it’s possible but it’s no where near as clear as you are claiming.
    Last edited by HCM; 03-27-2023 at 05:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennessee Jed View Post
    The church that runs this school is known locally as being very conservative. It's been reported that the shooter attended the school at one point. The school is not the kind of place where a trans person would do well.

    In addition, tensions have been high locally due to a pending drag show bill (prohibiting minor attendance) being argued breathlessly by both sides of that issue.

    Local police say they found a manifesto from the shooter and this was a targeted attack, but haven't elaborated on that point yet.
    I think you are spot on here.

    In addition to the manifesto, open source indicates there was evidence the shooter conducted pre attack surveillance.

    For clarity, the shooter is apparently a biological female who identified as male and used “he/him” pronouns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Thats just contempt prior to investigation by using a logical fallacy, typical juvenile knee jerk reaction. How do you know for sure that none of them have NEVER thought of harming another person? Did you ask them all Frank??? And what does that even have to do with the FACT that almost ALL of the shooters are on those toxic products and it is a documented fact about those listed side effects... Try again Frank, this time do some research of your own, the proof is there.
    You should try again. I have seen these drugs help people tremendously.

    The problem is that they are sometimes prescribed by either primary care physicians who have no business practicing mental health, or by psychiatrists who relied on blood tests rather than extensive conversations with the patient about symptoms.

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    One of the things I find interesting about this forum is that folks strive to keep the quality of technical information presented about firearms quite high, but we often see medical information that is the equivalent of the Strasborg goat tests.
    I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.

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