Foreign LE duty guns

[TheNewbie]

In your travels, what have you seen in the holster of foreign LE officers?


In Vancouver, Canada, I saw P226s in the holsters of the PD.


In Mexico, I have observed a lot of different guns. In the past, I saw a decent amount of revolvers (probably Taurus). This time I only saw pistols. Glocks and Beretta 92s, but I also saw a 3rd Gen S&W, and for the first time, I saw what looked like a P226 in the holster of a Mexican Marine. I see few quality holsters, and I mean it’s rare to see a decent looking holster.


Long guns I see in Mexico is M4s, their domestic take on the G36, shotguns (extra rounds often carried in cheap nylon belts), MP5s and a sub machine gun that looks like an UZI or some domestic knock off.


I’m interested in what everyone else has saw in their travels abroad.

[Joe in PNG]

In PNG, I've seen various 20" AR variants, a Mossy 500, Daewoos with wire stock, and at least one MP5.

In Australia, it's mostly Glocks.

[TGS]

Too many to list.

Everything from modern western guns, to 12ga single shot shotties, Lee Enfields, Uzis with the mags welded in place, locally made Glock copies, and Chinese Tokarevs in 9x19.

Chinese guns in particular are very common in 2nd and 3rd world countries, which are commonly recipients of Chinese aid packages.

What's in their "holsters" is fairly limiting. A large portion of the world only issues pistols to higher ranked individuals, with patrol officers having long guns. So, I mentioned some of the long guns above.

[awp_101]

sub machine gun that looks like an UZI or some domestic knock off.

Steyr MPi69 or MPi81?

Uzis with the mags welded in place

No more lost mags, right?

[Glenn E. Meyer]

When I was in the UK in the 80's and looked out the window of my plane at Heathrow, a little Scorpion tank drove by.

[TGS]

Steyr MPi69 or MPi81?

Probably the Mendoza HM-3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendoza_HM-3

No more lost mags, right?

Modern problems require modern solutions.

[Kyle Reese]

Germany- cops in Rheinland-Pfalz carried the Walther P99 while I was there visiting family.

Iraq- GLOCK 19 Gen 3 carried by Iraqi Police.

Afghanistan- 9mm S&W SIGMA carried by Afghan cops.

[HCM]

Too many to list.

Everything from modern western guns, to 12ga single shot shotties, Lee Enfields, Uzis with the mags welded in place, locally made Glock copies, and Chinese Tokarevs in 9x19.

Chinese guns in particular are very common in 2nd and 3rd world countries, which are commonly recipients of Chinese aid packages.

What's in their "holsters" is fairly limiting. A large portion of the world only issues pistols to higher ranked individuals, with patrol officers having long guns. So, I mentioned some of the long guns above.

Re: Chinese guns - in addition to 9mm export versions of the Tokarev and the current PRC service pistol, Norinco makes copies of the P226, P228 and the CZ 75 as well as M-4 carbines and 870 shotguns.

[DrkBlue]

Chicago - Three Digit, Third Generation Smith.

UK - MP5-SF, Glocks and a G36, Metropolitan London

France - Beretta 92s and Whatever they call the SIG P2340, but chambered in 9mm. It had some specific French designation.

Mexico - Favorite was a a Beretta PM-12 that was mostly rust. And twice as old as the Tourist Policia holding it.

I was in Ciudad de Mexico and Oaxaca in the 1990s, just ahead of the Vincente Fox election. Loads of M-16A1s everywhere in the hands of the olive green Army. My favorite was Deuce-and-Half type trucks doing money drops/pickups at the banks. Each stop looked like something out of the Bin Laden Raid, with a couple squads jumping out at each stop. It was amusing, but 16yoa conscripts with Full Autos also gave a little pause.
C’est la Mexico.

[TGS]

Re: Chinese guns - in addition to 9mm export versions of the Tokarev and the current PRC service pistol, Norinco makes copies of the P226, P228 and the CZ 75 as well as M-4 carbines and 870 shotguns.

On that note, once upon a time an officer from the now defunct Fuerza Federales showed me his Galil ACE with Chinese characters.

Another unlicensed copy/substitute of interest: police officers with the Khyber Pakthunwkha Police are issued the 9mm Chinese Toks, which don't run well. Glocks are extremely expensive in Pakistan due to import bans, so scrappy officers may sometimes procure local Glock copies made in the factories in Peshawar....some of the officers from the KPK Anti-Terrorist Squad shared their with me. Another from the Violent Crime Cell let me check out his Russian MP-446 Grach, another popular pistol in country.

The ATS officers had been in the fight at the platoon-sized assault on US Consulate Peshawar and the 2014 Peshawar school massacre, of note among many fights. The Violent Crime Cell inspector had an L-shaped ambush on his vehicle by Haqqani which earned him three bullet holes. I had to cut off the rest of the story after he described getting them in custody and executing them on the street.