Send them to Oregon. We're going to need lots and lots of 10-round mags pretty soon.
Send them to Oregon. We're going to need lots and lots of 10-round mags pretty soon.
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Good point on giving them away. I will likely list them here to send to someone who may need them.
Also good points on the reason for training mags. Usually when I’ve thought of “training mags” I think of cheaper less reliable mags, but having some mags set aside for training only due to wear and tear is a good idea.
Thanks for this 10-rounder G19 mag thread.
It's a good idea, especially with 10-round G19 mags to as-thoroughly-as-possible, vett any magazines for carry use.
I can only wonder if all 10-round Glock mags will work in the OP's G19gen5, or any other G19gen5; or if Glock was able to engineer some small change into its latest G19gen5.
I'm doubting, but really don't know, if somehow Glock made a change to its 10-round G19gen5 mags as I think there's merely a color change to the 10-round 9mm follower and the mag's baseplate has that little lip. I'm thinking even the older 10-round G19 mags might work in the OP's G19gen5. Maybe due to tolerance stacking, the subject G19gen5's slide, barrel, & frame could have a slight difference in feed angles vs someone's G19 gens 2-4 which wouldn't reliably feed using their 10-round G19 mags.
I think I've got a 10-round older G19 mag (probably a Gen4 version with black-colored follower and older type baseplate) laying around but not going to put much time and money into verifying its reliability with my carry ammo. I don't travel to other states much if ever (only NV and CA and retired/LE exempt in CA).
Off-Topic: Plus, probably my favorite go-to carry Glocks are either of two G26 guns, anyway (normally stock 10-rounders). I'll also go to my sub-10-round revolvers (from the revolver forum) should I need ever need to travel out of state at a moment's notice, even though I've got 50-state LEOSA permitted carry.
To think folks were filing mag bodies and followers; changing followers; who knows what else in attempts to get their 10-round G19 mags to work. It takes so much trial & error to only maybe get reliability. As everybody here knows, that abitrary 10-round mag limit states/locales enact can be so frustrating.
I was completely out of Glock, except for G26, for years because of 10-round mag unreliability. The last time I tested was several years ago and at that time was getting stoppages on almost every magazine with JHP. That happened with multiple G19s and one G17, so it wasn't an occasional thing. They ran fine with FMJ.Originally Posted by L-2
What's amazing about it is that gen 3 Glocks were and still are the most common pistols at the range here. While doing RSO days I've watched so many individuals practice with FMJ range ammo with the same Glocks they use for carry. Every now and then I'd ask someone if they had ever tested their carry pistol with their carry ammo, and responses ranged from "no" to blank looks to "that's too expensive." And if they're bothering to go to the range these folks probably aren't even on the left half of the curve. Given the frequency of stoppages, I've always thought it was litigation waiting to happen and more than a little short sighted of Glock to take so long to fix it.
Great thread! When I purchased my Glock 19 with the new Aimpoint, I mistakenly bought one that came with 10 round magazines. I put them aside thinking here is a waste of three magazines, and now we have this thread. I have taken one of them and put it in my truck to use with any JHP testing that I do.
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Great point on the Gen5 tolerances… I have a Gen3 19… I’m going to start testing the Gen5 10 round mags in it, with the usual suspect JHPs.
I recall an old thread/post from member DocGKR from years ago who talked about the unreliability of G19 10-rounders and recommending a G26 with its 10-rounder instead of a G19 with a 10-round mag.
For me, I recall I had failure to chamber the first JHP round of a 10-rounder with my old G19gen3 or gen4 from slide lock. I didn't want to have the top/1st being a FMJ round with the remaining 9 rounds being JHP ammo, although that could have been a work-around if I insisted on using G19 10-rounders. As I mentioned earlier, I am/was exempt anyway in California, being LEO/retired LEO, although I wouldn't try it in any other 10-round-limited states as LEOSA doesn't generally apply to mag cap limits I hear.
Maybe GJM will later add to this thread as he seems to have relatively unlimited time & ammo to shoot compared to many/most folks. Thanks GJM(I need to shoot more as I used to do.)
I resemble that comment. I have a ten rounder in the truck, to test in the 19/26 with JHP when the opportunity arises. Wish I knew about this when I started the little gun thread.I recall an old thread/post from member DocGKR from years ago who talked about the unreliability of G19 10-rounders and recommending a G26 with its 10-rounder instead of a G19 with a 10-round mag.
For me, I recall I had failure to chamber the first JHP round of a 10-rounder with my old G19gen3 or gen4 from slide lock. I didn't want to have the top/1st being a FMJ round with the remaining 9 rounds being JHP ammo, although that could have been a work-around if I insisted on using G19 10-rounders. As I mentioned earlier, I am/was exempt anyway in California, being LEO/retired LEO, although I wouldn't try it in any other 10-round-limited states as LEOSA doesn't generally apply to mag cap limits I hear.
Maybe GJM will later add to this thread as he seems to have relatively unlimited time & ammo to shoot compared to many/most folks. Thanks GJM
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During the AWB I got interested in the Glock 19 as an off-duty gun. (I was stuck with a 3rd gen S&W as an issued gun) I found with a stock 10rd magazine loaded with one round that I could induce a malfunction almost every time if I tried to load the gun from slide lock. Even when using FMJ ammunition. The nose of the round would dip down and catch on the bottom edge of the feed ramp. The 10rd followers had a weird cutout on them. If I replaced that follower with a #3 marked follower from a 15rd magazine, the problem went away.
Those magazines have long since disappeared.
Like others have stated, I like knowing that if need be, the new production 10rd magazines are good to go.
As a side note: I bought some LE/Mil marked Glock 19 15rd magazines in 1999. I carried those for a long time, but they are now regulated as training magazines. About 6 of these are kept loaded at any given time with training ammunition. Mainly in case I get an urge to go practice and don’t want to have to stop and load mags. I’ve been doing this for at least the last 10 years with the AWB era 15rd magazines. They’re still going strong with the original springs.
I also have 3 x 17rd S&W M&P magazines that I marked and used as training magazines prior to my retirement. These also were used for about 10 years through 2 issued M&P’s. While it was nice not to have to unload and reload duty ammo out of your issued 3 magazines when at department training sessions, the real benefit was that since I didn’t give a sh*t about the training magazines, they got dropped on concrete and gravel a lot while conducting emergency reloads over the years. The finish on the bodies of these mags looks rough. But the magazines are still going strong.
I’ve become a believer in the value of having dedicated training magazines that are exactly like those you carry.
Training or carry, an unreliable magazine gets kissed by a hammer before getting tossed.
This discussion reminds me of the gun that DocGKR built, or, had built, a G19 with the grip sculpted to take G26 mags, but leaving some amount of front strap and back strap in place, to make the weapon more grip-able than a G26. I filed that idea away, into the back of my mind, for a Travelin’ Pistol project. If I remember correctly, my subsequent discovery of how so very well a Short Frame G30 fits my left hand probably caused DocGKR’s concept to fade from my memory. Even so, a carefully cut-down G19 remains a worthy project, that I should resurrect, if for no other reason than that no G26 has a rail that can accept a Surefire X300-series WML, and, when not traveling to restrictive states, so often have G17 mags on or about my person.
Sorry for the thread drift.
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