Good DAO Options in 2023?

[medmo]

I quickly scanned through the responses and didn't see "GLOCK" mentioned.
I think many folks might think of double-action-only, aka DAO as only having a hammer-fired semiauto.
I realize the Glock doesn't have a hammer system but it does have the option of its NY1 and NY2 springs which will provide a "DAO-like" trigger feel:
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/SP07412
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/SP07405
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/47337
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/39651
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/39324

Instead, Glock also has "plus" aka "+" connectors which will give a heavier trigger pull, but without a "DAO" feeling reset.

No responses needed. I just wanted to point something out which nobody else seems to have mentioned yet.

(Of course, there are also revolvers which can be used in a double-action mode, but may not have the same semiauto calibers, but there are some with semi-calibers, and won't be mag-fed.)

Respectfully disagree. In my mind a DAO trigger is based on a SA/DA pistol that has been altered to only shoot DA. What that means is a long in length trigger pull like a double action revolver trigger. To me the NY1 and NY2 Glock triggers feel like heavy and squishy SFA triggers and not at all like a longer smooth DA trigger.

[Thy.Will.Be.Done]

I like HK for plastic if you can find a DAO trigger kit.

But even better, Beretta 92DAO Centurion. A little heavier, but it's a fabulous DAO pistol.

The only problem with true DAO in HK pistols is that it will likely be a ridiculous heavy and aweful pull. Maybe if you can get P30 setup this way it may be better but the others are pretty sad state of affairs from what I've seen.

[L-2]

Disagree or not, my suggestion was just something for the OP to consider.
I didn't mean to imply a NY1 or NY2 trigger Glock would pass for a revolver in a blindfolded test.
I realize there will somehow be a different feel, but at least get to a repeatable 12 pound trigger pull.

The OP is looking for something which may not even exist in a new-in-box available form, although, I think, HK still has its "LEM" triggered guns in its catalog. I believe SIG has shelved its "DAK" and "DAO" triggered "classic" P-series guns for now, but there are likely some used SIGs still out there.

If the OP finds something satisfactory to him/her, perhaps he'll post what he'll have found which satisfies the desired handgun. It's a good question, at least academically.

I think, for the OP, is to shop and make the best choice for what's available; then train to a level of proficiency with that firearm to his satisfaction. It seems the OP is just a couple of decades late, as those DAO semiautos don't seem to be available anymore, I'm thinking of those older SIGs and S&W semiautos.

Edited to add: For the OP, also take a look at the Kahr-brand of firearms,
https://www.kahr.com/
as I believe NYPD had some of these on its approved firearms list back when NYPD required heavier, perhaps DAO-like, trigger pulls.

[Sig_Fiend]

I quickly scanned through the responses and didn't see "GLOCK" mentioned.
I think many folks might think of double-action-only, aka DAO as only having a hammer-fired semiauto.
I realize the Glock doesn't have a hammer system but it does have the option of its NY1 and NY2 springs which will provide a "DAO-like" trigger feel:
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/SP07412
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/SP07405
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/47337
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/39651
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/39324

Instead, Glock also has "plus" aka "+" connectors which will give a heavier trigger pull, but without a "DAO" feeling reset.

No responses needed. I just wanted to point something out which nobody else seems to have mentioned yet.

(Of course, there are also revolvers which can be used in a double-action mode, but may not have the same semiauto calibers, but there are some with semi-calibers, and won't be mag-fed.)

I know some will disagree with that but, I think the Glock NY triggers are at least worth mentioning from a testing/experimentation standpoint, at least for existing Glock owners.

Yes, it's not nearly the same amount of trigger travel as say a Beretta 92D. The NY triggers are certainly not a replacement for a DA/DAO pull in terms of safety, as length of travel has been well-established as more important.

That said, if someone already has a Glock and is considering jumping into the DAO realm, why not spend the $5 on the trigger spring for your Glock as sort of a teaser for how a constant force pull feels?

If someone can't even stand a 6-7# NY1 trigger setup, they sure as heck aren't going to like a lot of true DAO pulls that are 2-3x the length of travel. It's a cheap test at least but, I realize not everyone likes to tinker.

In all fairness, an HK LEM with a light or medium TRS (medium only on the P30 series) does feel considerably better than a Glock NY1 IMO.

[medmo]

Disagree or not, my suggestion was just something for the OP to consider.
I didn't mean to imply a NY1 or NY2 trigger Glock would pass for a revolver in a blindfolded test.
I realize there will somehow be a different feel, but at least get to a repeatable 12 pound trigger pull.

The OP is looking for something which may not even exist in a new-in-box available form, although, I think, HK still has its "LEM" triggered guns in its catalog. I believe SIG has shelved its "DAK" and "DAO" triggered "classic" P-series guns for now, but there are likely some used SIGs still out there.

If the OP finds something satisfactory to him/her, perhaps he'll post what he'll have found which satisfies the desired handgun. It's a good question, at least academically.

I think, for the OP, is to shop and make the best choice for what's available; then train to a level of proficiency with that firearm to his satisfaction. It seems the OP is just a couple of decades late, as those DAO semiautos don't seem to be available anymore, I'm thinking of those older SIGs and S&W semiautos.

Edited to add: For the OP, also take a look at the Kahr-brand of firearms,
https://www.kahr.com/
as I believe NYPD had some of these on its approved firearms list back when NYPD required heavier, perhaps DAO-like, trigger pulls.

Got it, understood, thanks.

[HeavyDuty]

Disagree or not, my suggestion was just something for the OP to consider.
I didn't mean to imply a NY1 or NY2 trigger Glock would pass for a revolver in a blindfolded test.
I realize there will somehow be a different feel, but at least get to a repeatable 12 pound trigger pull.

The OP is looking for something which may not even exist in a new-in-box available form, although, I think, HK still has its "LEM" triggered guns in its catalog. I believe SIG has shelved its "DAK" and "DAO" triggered "classic" P-series guns for now, but there are likely some used SIGs still out there.

If the OP finds something satisfactory to him/her, perhaps he'll post what he'll have found which satisfies the desired handgun. It's a good question, at least academically.

I think, for the OP, is to shop and make the best choice for what's available; then train to a level of proficiency with that firearm to his satisfaction. It seems the OP is just a couple of decades late, as those DAO semiautos don't seem to be available anymore, I'm thinking of those older SIGs and S&W semiautos.

Edited to add: For the OP, also take a look at the Kahr-brand of firearms,
https://www.kahr.com/
as I believe NYPD had some of these on its approved firearms list back when NYPD required heavier, perhaps DAO-like, trigger pulls.

They do, and they are becoming my choice. I put a heavy trigger return spring into them and I’m quite happy with the length and weight. I know, I’m only ten years late to the party…

[JonInWA]

I'll also jump on the Glock NY-1 and NY-2's for consideration. I ran a NY-2 for a season in my G21, and while I ultimately went back to the "regular" coil spring Glock trigger return spring, I wasn't all that displeased with the NY-2, except in long/repetitive strings of fire; my trigger finger got pretty tired. It did provide a somewhat revolver-like triggerpull flavor, and really wasn't that onerous to use.

If you're EDC'ing a Glock, it's an option worthy of consideration-and it's an easy and cheap experiment.

I'm not sure of the applicability of the NY spring options in the Gen5 Glocks; my 2021 Armorer's Manual isn't really clear on it; the NY options are pictured in a frame labeled "Gen4 Previous," and it wasn't discussed in detail to the point where I wrote it down in my notes; perhaps someone else can chime in more definitively.

Best, Jon

[JonInWA]

I checked my 2018 course notes; they specified that there are NY1 springs for Gen5 Glocks, but then they were only available for Canadian LEO contract/order guns. I don't know if the Gen5 NY1 (or NY2) are different from earlier NYs.

Best, Jon

[HeavyDuty]

I picked up a Gen5 NY-1 a few months ago, it’s in my 26.5 now.

[JonInWA]

Hmmm...question solved; according to my current Armorer's parts list, part # 39651 is a black Gen5 NY1 spring, excluding G19X and G45, and part # 47337 is a gray NY2 Gen5 spring, also excluding G19X and G45.

Best, Jon