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    Since the debut of GPT4 a few weeks ago I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos on the subject.
    One thing is clear from watching a variety of alarmist, dismissive, hyper hyping, predatory, borderline criminal, surrendering to our Machine Overlords, basking in the dawn of the Singularity and a handful of actually explanatory videos is this: whatever is coming, is coming. No one is even pretending to stop it, or that it can be stopped.
    There are a significant number of people who have essentially religious feelings about AI(One guy-David Shapiro-has bluntly stated that a hyper-intelligent AGI is essentially God) and are openly stating that they'll do anything to circumvent any guardrails or limitations on AI distribution because it's going to save the world, make us immortal, pay us UBI and get those pesky conservatives under control.
    The level of smugness in those that believe it can be controlled, that it shouldn't be controlled(UTOPIA!) or that simply don't believe it can be controlled but believe the genie can be put back in the bottle(by .Gov, or lack of belief in the profit motive) is in and of itself alarming.

    Open AI has publicly declared it intends to "capture the majority" of the World's wealth.
    Google(Don't be Evil) fired every naysayer, alignment critic and "slow the roll" voice they have, and the CEO put them on Nuclear War footing to catch up and be first on the block with an AGI.
    About eleventy billion dollars have been invested recently(on top of all previously) so it's now going to be a self licking ice cream cone.

    The "Alignment Problem", that is writing the instructions so that you achieve the intended goal of the instruction appears to be very nearly intractable now. As the program becomes more capable, prevention of unintended consequences becomes increasingly more difficult-even without malice on the part of the programmer or some self aware "intelligence".
    Search the "Paperclip problem" and "Specification gaming". Also the "Moloch Concept" about the emergent property of inhuman indifference in any sufficiently complex human engineered construct.
    Here's a good one on Moloch, by champion physicist poker player(?) LIv Boeree that touches on all 3



    Also recommended is "The Social Dilemma" on Netflix. It points out that even without AGI, we've had 21st century supercomputers pointed at our Paleolithic brains(running version 1.0 of our Neolithic minds) for over a decade now, and that alone has unleashed a horde of social problems.
    It's telling that everyone interviewed for the program, which includes every major social media platform's highest ranking developers and execs are all saying Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.
    One guy got on Snapchat posing as a 13 year old girl to the AI interface and told it that "she" had met a 28 year old man and was going to have sex with him.
    The machine immediately started congratulating "her" about being in love and being mature and only cautioned safe sex...

    This one is simply unnerving. Note the date.


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    It writes pretty good sql and javascript if you're specific.

    Could see it provide the learn to code crowd a solid bite in the ass. Meanwhile, it can't weld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyho View Post
    It writes pretty good sql and javascript if you're specific.

    Could see it provide the learn to code crowd a solid bite in the ass.Meanwhile, it can't weld
    Yet, it can’t weld yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballoflaco View Post
    Yet, it can’t weld yet.
    Touche'

    ...but it can code now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballoflaco View Post
    Yet, it can’t weld yet.
    Sure it can. It just needs to get in control of the robots who've been mindlessly welding away in the factories for decades.

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    Are we gonna fight our robot overlords or not?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyho View Post
    Are we gonna fight our robot overlords or not?!
    I think we need a Time Machine for that.

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    @feudist there’s a reason that some folks are so worried about Microchip technology proliferation right now.

    Also, I did hear that we’re nearing the limit of Moore’s Law now due to physics and our current technology. I’d be really interested if anybody who’s more of a technologist than me would like to chime in on that one.

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    If they make quantum computers work, this will get much worse.
    If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.

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    Bari Weiss had Sam Altman (the co-founder and ceo of open AI) on her podcast this week. It’s worth a listen.

    https://www.honestlypod.com/podcast/...n-of-a-new-one

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