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    China Projects Airpower over CONUS

    It's a balloon. From Wall Street Journal:

    The U.S. tracked what officials described as a Chinese reconnaissance balloon over the continental states this week, in what would be an aggressive act of intelligence gathering over sensitive American national security sites.

    The balloon sighting came days before Secretary of State Antony Blinken was to make a planned trip to Beijing, according to U.S. officials, throwing into question efforts to repair relations between the two powers who are at odds over a host of global and regional issues. The balloon was first spotted on Wednesday by civilians in a commercial airliner, U.S. officials said.

    Two Air Force F-22 fighters scrambled from Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada to Montana, where the balloon was observed, before the administration decided not to shoot it down.

    The U.S. maintains an arsenal of 150 nuclear-armed Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana. A senior defense official said the U.S. government was taking steps to shield sensitive sites, but added that the reconnaissance systems on the balloon were presumed to have “limited additive value” beyond what the Chinese could gather from their low-earth-orbit satellites.
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    Hell why do they need a damn balloon when every millennial has a Tic Toc app on their phone listening to everything we do already.

    Harumph.
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    I guess I'm not really clear on the justification to not shoot it down. Montana and the Dakotas are about as sparsely populated as it gets. Only thing I can figure is we're more interested in monitoring what it is transmitting and to where it is transmitting. Which I could see being of quite useful intelligence overall.
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    Where I live (Germany), China is regularly represented very negatively by the mainstream media. A former Chinese co-worker, good guy, convinced me that they are better than represented here: Several times, when German media again bashed China, he showed me a corresponding article from the BBC. BBC represented China always much better. I worked together with him for years. He regularly read China Daily, it was his main medium for news about China and the world, I think. I checked what they write about the balloon:

    global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202302/03/WS63dccf33a31057c47ebacd2c.html:
    the shortest route between Beijing and Montana is over 9,000km, which makes it impossible to precisely control the flight of this or any balloon.
    Sounds very plausible to me. Advocatus diaboli, over. ;-)

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    After years in Germany, the Chinese and his wife, who he married in Germany, went voluntarily back to China. Can't be so bad there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totem Polar View Post
    How does anyone know it’s Chinese? I mean, I have no theories worth listening to, myself, but I am asking.
    China admitted it was theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate56 View Post
    China admitted it was theirs.
    Can you give us a Chinese source? China Daily is their main medium AFAIK, can't find it there.
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