Steiner Prism Scopes

[oregon45]

I looked at the PA 3x quite a bit before deciding to try to the Steiner. I owned a PA 1x briefly and it was an ok optic, but the mount didn't inspire confidence and the glass was so-so in terms of optical distortion at the edges which I find particularly annoying (although in practical use it makes little difference, and the central portion of the scope and reticle were sharp enough for my purposes). I decided against the PA 3x because its price was close enough to the Steiner that it made sense to me to go with an established optical manufacturer.

All that said, I've put my T332 up in the classifieds. It's a great little scope but the reticle is just too fine for my eyes. I would love for Steiner to make a version of the Trijicon chevron reticle in this scope. I think they'd have a real winner in this price range.

[Trukinjp13]

This thing is a pig. Acog blows it out of the water as far as I’m concerned. Durability, reticle, glass, weight (especially with adm base), American made. Yeah it’s more expensive I get it, but it’s bombproof and you have plenty of options on what you want for illumination/reticle etc.

If it’s for a range toy or just your budget blaster I’d say it’s hard to beat the PA prisms. They use a mini acog mount so their are a bunch of options out there. It has a few shortcomings, yet you get a good reticle, relatively lightweight. Vortex seems to be okay options, I just have no experience.


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[LockedBreech]

I really enjoy the Primary Arms 1x Microprism I have on my DDM4 right now, but unfortunately I am in the process of divesting myself as much from Chinese-made goods as possible, which is quite hard in the optics sphere. Vortex doesn't work for me either as the Spitfire doesn't have shake-awake.

Does the Steiner option have shake-awake?

[oregon45]

Does the Steiner option have shake-awake?

The T332 does not.

[LockedBreech]

The T332 does not.

Bummer, thank you.

[HeavyDuty]

Any other T332 users that can comment? I’m especially curious how it compares to a PA 3x SLx, a scope I have several of right now.

[HCM]

Any other T332 users that can comment? I’m especially curious how it compares to a PA 3x SLx, a scope I have several of right now.

Uncommon optics are uncommon for a reason.

[HeavyDuty]

Uncommon optics are uncommon for a reason.

But is that due to problems, crappy marketing, stasis, moon phase? That’s why I’m asking here.

I’m maximum low speed / high drag, and if it offers advantages over other accepted alternatives I’m game.

[oregon45]

Having had both the Steiner 3x and the Primary Arms 3x, I found the PA to have a better reticle and glass of about the same quality--as well as being much smaller. I think the Steiner is less common because it is (when not on sale) almost as expensive as an ACOG. And in my opinion, for prism optics, once you go above $500 you might as well go all the way to an ACOG and not have to worry about reliability or durability. Whatever the other drawbacks of the ACOG family, you don't often hear of them failing mechanically.

I feel the same way about red dot sights. Once you go above about $300 you might as well just buy an Aimpoint and not have to worry about it.

[HCM]

But is that due to problems, crappy marketing, stasis, moon phase? That’s why I’m asking here.

I’m maximum low speed / high drag, and if it offers advantages over other accepted alternatives I’m game.

Same as with guns. If it’s good it will “find a way” even with poor marketing.

Uncommon guns / optics / whatever are usually uncommon because they are flawed. A small proportion might be good uncommon due to being prohibitively expensive but that is simply another type of flaw.

They offer nothing over an ACOG or PA prism.