P&S Modcast 329 Defensive Handheld Lights

[Paul Blackburn]

2 hours and 33 minutes discussing hand held lights.

Wondering what NH Shooters thoughts are on their discussion...

[NH Shooter]

2 hours and 33 minutes discussing hand held lights.

Wondering what NH Shooters thoughts are on their discussion...

I will have to check it out, thanks for the heads up!

[03RN]

Gay... I initially only saw 329 and thought they were talking revolvers.

[NH Shooter]

I listened to the podcast and not surprisingly, found myself aligned with what was discussed!

As a note, this was a recent post by P&S on Instagram (I believe by Matt) - https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnk8VXSvDdL/

Here are my Cliff Notes of the points that were made;

• For an admin light, any decent light will do. Ideally it should be compact with minimal candela for close work. A mention was made about being able to clip a light to the bill of a cap for hands-free use.
• For a tactical light, "switchology" that always brings the light on full power is needed, as is good control of momentary operation.
• Quality construction and potted electronics are needed to ensure the light survives hard use.
• While a good combination of center hot spot and spill is preferable, the advantages of high candela were mentioned numerous time.
• Lights designed by product engineers and marketing people are usually not ideal for tactical uses, and end up with "goofy" features not suitable for the application.
• "Stabby / pokey things" (aggressively crenelated bezels) are best used for wearing holes in pockets.
• There was praise for the Modlite and Cloud Defensive products

In the Q&A section, there was discussion of civilian use of tactical lights that mirrors my own thoughts on their use.

Good presentation on the subject matter, well worth the listen!

PS - I need to get these guys to try one of my lights. ;-)

[Blades]

PS - I need to get these guys to try one of my lights. ;-)

Yep.

[BillSWPA]

Crenelations defeat the very purpose they pretend to serve: making the light useful as an emergency impact weapon. As soon as the crenelations (or words like "Defender") are added to the light, its purpose as a weapon is obvious, creating a likelihood that security screeners will not allow the light to pass through a screening.

The best "Defender" type light I have ever seen is the Malkoff Bodyguard V2 with the Malkoff body having the fully shrouded tailcap. The shroud limits access to the tail switch a bit more than desired when using the light as a light, but also provides a nice striking surface on that end of the light. The head has a nicely recessed lens. The circumferential ridges and grooves on the body facilitate a secure grasp. Nothing about the light screams "weapon."

[Paul Blackburn]

I listened to the podcast and not surprisingly, found myself aligned with what was discussed!

As a note, this was a recent post by P&S on Instagram (I believe by Matt) - https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnk8VXSvDdL/

Here are my Cliff Notes of the points that were made;

• For an admin light, any decent light will do. Ideally it should be compact with minimal candela for close work. A mention was made about being able to clip a light to the bill of a cap for hands-free use.
• For a tactical light, "switchology" that always brings the light on full power is needed, as is good control of momentary operation.
• Quality construction and potted electronics are needed to ensure the light survives hard use.
• While a good combination of center hot spot and spill is preferable, the advantages of high candela were mentioned numerous time.
• Lights designed by product engineers and marketing people are usually not ideal for tactical uses, and end up with "goofy" features not suitable for the application.
• "Stabby / pokey things" (aggressively crenelated bezels) are best used for wearing holes in pockets.
• There was praise for the Modlite and Cloud Defensive products

In the Q&A section, there was discussion of civilian use of tactical lights that mirrors my own thoughts on their use.

Good presentation on the subject matter, well worth the listen!

PS - I need to get these guys to try one of my lights. ;-)

Glad you liked it and thanks for posting your observations.

[Erick Gelhaus]

In the Q&A section, there was discussion of civilian use of tactical lights that mirrors my own thoughts on their use.

Good presentation on the subject matter, well worth the listen!

PS - I need to get these guys to try one of my lights. ;-)

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I'm interested in your lights and can work them into an article, etc.

[msstate56]

Crenelations defeat the very purpose they pretend to serve: making the light useful as an emergency impact weapon. As soon as the crenelations (or words like "Defender") are added to the light, its purpose as a weapon is obvious, creating a likelihood that security screeners will not allow the light to pass through a screening.

The best "Defender" type light I have ever seen is the Malkoff Bodyguard V2 with the Malkoff body having the fully shrouded tailcap. The shroud limits access to the tail switch a bit more than desired when using the light as a light, but also provides a nice striking surface on that end of the light. The head has a nicely recessed lens. The circumferential ridges and grooves on the body facilitate a secure grasp. Nothing about the light screams "weapon."

I took a dremel to the crenellations on my SF lights a long time ago.

[LittleLebowski]

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PS - I need to get these guys to try one of my lights. ;-)

Let me know if you need an introduction with them.