Originally Posted by
SoCalDep
I’m stealing the idea of this from the LPVO thread in the carbine/rifle forum here.
This is my opinion, but I’m setting up the proverbial folding table and chair and I’m sitting here with a virtual cup of coffee asking if you’ll “change my mind”.
I asked Trijicon if they were planning to release an RMR that didn’t require removal to change the battery... in January 2020. The “we’re thinking about it” answer I got this week was the same answer I got back then. I have owned four RMRs. I’m down to one that’s about to be removed to the spare container. I will never buy another that requires removal for a battery change. Trijicon... The RMR was the thing that got pistol optics real-world cred. It will die if you don’t get your shit together.
The SRO is still rad. I’ve seen some copies of the SRO and I’m still an SRO fan. It’s awesome for what it does and I’m happy with both of mine. I have seen very minimal issues with SROs with other shooters and most of those issues were battery caps not tightened enough (though they do need to be “really” tight).
Leupold... The DPP is a decent optic but is not ideal in several ways. Get better.
Aimpoint... The ACRO P-2 is a great optic and if I could only have one gun and one optic the P-2 would be on that gun. Don’t rest on your laurels. This is where I’m a loyalist and a bit of a fanboy. I did a lot of research, testing, and I’m confident to say that Aimpoint is one of those companies that when you invest in quality, you get performance that when tested in a bunch of different areas, is better than the rest. My favorite rifle has an H2 and Aimpoint magnifier and my second favorite has a Comp M4. With all that said... There is more to be done with pistol optics. I think that Aimpoint has the right people in places to influence design and if they let those people do that we’ll see great stuff from them.
Bushnell... I’m kinda impressed so far with the RXS-250 but need to shoot it more. It needs some pretty proprietary screws, but they’ve been pretty generous with sending spares out.
EOTech... It’s very...very similar to the Bushnell. I have little experience but at least one person I very much respect has been running one and is happy. I think both the Bushnell and EOTech are probably made in the same factory and that means that my opinion of both so far is decent.
Steiner... The MPS has had mixed reviews here and a partner has experienced a broken optic that I confirmed. Steiner replaced it immediately and I think this optic has potential to solve some some traditional optic problems (glare being one). The jury is still out and as with other manufacturers there is still improvement, but it’s a great addition to the optic world and will influence development going forward.
Sig... The Romeo 1Pro is actually a pretty decent optic. I’ve taught a lot of classes with students running them and they seem to work really well. I’ve had a couple that got lazy about the shake awake, but with a quick beating they started running again and didn’t repeat the problem. They aren’ t my favorite but they make a decent pistol optic. THe Romeo 2 is something I’ve only played with for a few minutes without shooting. They want a lot of money for it and it’s not really an enclosed emitter so without a lot of time behind it I’m deferring to a truly enclosed for my preference...
Except the following, the manufacturers I haven’t mentioned I either have no experience with (that I remember currently) or I simply don’t like or care about because they are copies of better optics at a lower price point. I will pay for the better...
Then there’s Holosun.
People say they are stealing intellectual designs. So has everyone since Grubb in 1900. It’s not new.
They have been driving improvements over the past three years to include battery replacement without removing the optic on an RMR footprint, multiple reticles, solar power, multiple body metal compositions, effective compact optics, compact enclosed emitters, solar charging sights with no battery exchange/charging necessary, and based on what I saw this week, their thermal and NV rifle optics are just stupid awesome at an attainable (if not cheap) price.
Like a bunch of other products, the company is based in the US, and they happen to be in the area where I work. Their products are made in China like a lot of other products to include most of the phones we are using to look at this thread. If that’s a no-go for you I get it, and if you’re dedicated and consistent to a US or US-friendly only product then look somewhere else and be confident. If you are crap talking because it’s made in China as if that’s supposed to convince me to buy an RMR instead of a 507C I’m excited to debate.
Yes, Trijicon sued them a bit ago. When I look at the real reason I see a desperate company trying to stay relevant in the face of improved performance and better ingenuity. Let’s face it. Holosun isn’t stealing technology. That boat sailed a century ago. They’re just making things better. Other companies need to wake up and get in the race.
I have more Holosuns than any other optic. I’ve dropped my personal Holosun optic in testing from 3, 4, and twice from 5 feet (not Aaron Cowan but enough for me) to see how it performed. I’m still using it.
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