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    Splits and times with N frames

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    That's 6 shots, the 2 shots in the 7 is hard to see. I did 5-6 bill drills with my new mountain gun from a baranti CCR
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    Averaging around 3 seconds with 0.3 second splits.

    That's a little bit slower than me with .357 k frames.

    Is that pretty typically? When comparing the 2?

    I'm still waiting on the moon clips so hopefully the reloads will make up for the slower shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
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    That's 6 shots, the 2 shots in the 7 is hard to see. I did 5-6 bill drills with my new mountain gun from a baranti CCR
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    Averaging around 3 seconds with 0.3 second splits.

    That's a little bit slower than me with .357 k frames.

    Is that pretty typically? When comparing the 2?

    I'm still waiting on the moon clips so hopefully the reloads will make up for the slower shots.
    I'm pretty sure it is typical to be a touch faster with the smaller cylinder. I remember reading that one of the hot shooters (I think it was Miculek, but not certain) back in the day started with an 8 3\8" K frame because there was less mass to start and stop with each pull.

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    I also think it might be part of the recoil impulse. The heavier bullet going slower is more of a slow push. The faster .357 is a faster snap is easier imo to keep flat. I feel like I can muscle it down easier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldherkpilot View Post
    I'm pretty sure it is typical to be a touch faster with the smaller cylinder. I remember reading that one of the hot shooters (I think it was Miculek, but not certain) back in the day started with an 8 3\8" K frame because there was less mass to start and stop with each pull.
    Titanium cylinder N frames are a typical competition revolver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    Titanium cylinder N frames are a typical competition revolver.
    IDK about “typical”, unless you’re seriously committed to making grand master in USPSA revolver or ICORE.

    But yeah, the lighter cylinder turns faster and with less effort while reducing peening of the stop notches and CS.

    The higher bore axis of the N-frame is going to increase muzzle flip, also contributing to split times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtcarm View Post
    IDK about “typical”, unless you’re seriously committed to making grand master in USPSA revolver or ICORE.

    But yeah, the lighter cylinder turns faster and with less effort while reducing peening of the stop notches and CS.

    The higher bore axis of the N-frame is going to increase muzzle flip, also contributing to split times.
    I think the 929 is THE typical USPSA and SC competition revolver as opposed to a revolver found in competition.

    Locally here, no GM revo but every single of the 8 B class guys has a 929.

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    So does a 2.5 sec bill drill vs 3 with 0.25 vs 0.3 second splits with full power ammo seem about right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    I also think it might be part of the recoil impulse. The heavier bullet going slower is more of a slow push. The faster .357 is a faster snap is easier imo to keep flat. I feel like I can muscle it down easier
    @jtcarm

    I think it’s probably the load more so than anything else (+/- trigger weight), I don’t recall my steel 625 being split challenged but it’s been a while since I shot it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    So does a 2.5 sec bill drill vs 3 with 0.25 vs 0.3 second splits with full power ammo seem about right?
    I’m going to wager that you’re losing split time and recoil control with those grips.

    Similar to what came on my 625.

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    I would like to see @JCN or @03RN run a 329PD. That would be fun.

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