Thought exercise -- EDC/field/training pistol for you and 50 friends

[Jason M]

"So here is the exercise. Pick one pistol set-up that will cover you for EDC (concealed), for field use in all weather, and to train with. Here is the wrinkle -- that same pistol set-up needs to be suitable for the same uses as your pistol for fifty of your friends, and you need to set all the pistols up. Extra credit if the pistols are likely to run reliably out of the box and as accessorized, and you don't need to get a home equity loan to pay for each one.

This idea came about because I have been shooting a pistol the last few days that fits these criteria perfectly, and was simple enough I could set up dozens of duplicates with a minimum of fuss."

Gun:
G26 (Gen 5) with OEM "Bold" sights
SCD
3x OEM 10 round mags
3x OEM "+2" 12 round mags (If allowed by locale)
2x OEM 15 round model 19 mags (If allowed by locale)

Carriage:
JMCK or DSG AIWB of choice
RCS Perrun OWB or Safariland 7TS.
RCS Vanguard2 with DCC behind belt clip and a dummy cord loop for use in the kit bag.
HPG Kit bag or Waist bag

I recently had this discussion with a friend. We each chose the same path but I opted for the 26. He chose the 19. Rationale was that we live near mag ban states and have folks in our 50 who live there FT. The 10 round options for the G19 are not nearly as reliable as the 10 round mags for the 26.

Glock is a frame which, based on spoken opinion from many users, does not form an instant bond with the shooters hand. It takes a little getting used to for many. The 2 finger grip of the OEM G26 is not a steep learning curve to climb for many. It is easier to carry for many. It is uber reliable. My G26 across all of the available generations are my most reliable Glocks. The Gen5 is very accurate with a wide variety of ammo.

The different mags provide "scalability" for different uses, hand sizes, and settings if allowed by local laws. Carry with the 15rnd mag and a 15rnd reload when in the field with the kit bag. Carry 10rnd or 12rnd for EDC with a 15rnd reload. Carry the 10rnd mag for NPE. I would not feel handicapped with 3 10 rnd mags.

The carriage options cover field, EDC, NPE, and training. Different ammo covers the same three uses. Use the kit bag and vanguard or the perrun in the field. Use the perrun or AIWB for training. Use the vanguard for NPE. My colleague friends my want the option of overt OWB carry and would be good with the 7TS.

The Bold sights on the 26 should be visible in all weather or lighting conditions. They should be sufficient for 2 or 4 legged problems at the most probable encountered distances.

The 19 would be just fine too. Both guns are accurate, all-weather durable, amenable to high round counts, and easily sourced. Either gun would be easy to set up. All of the accessories are easily sourced. The pistols and items spec'ed are pretty economical choices. I think the 26 gets the edge for those qualities AND being reliable with any size OEM Glock mag as well as being easier to conceal for many.

[Duelist]

Glock 26. SCD. Real sights - Ameriglo, Trijicon, factory night sights, whatever - something steel with glow in the dark dot(s). JMCK IWB#3 or similar from Dark Star or something. 2 each 10 round, 12 round, and 15 round magazines. Case or three of ball. 200 HSTs. Done.

Addendum: anyone who doesn’t want to/can’t manage a semiauto gets an SP101 with equivalent carry gear & appropriate ammo.

I also like the HPG chest pack and RCS Vanguard.

[fatdog]

Glock 19.5 with SCD, Ameriglo agent sights, JMCK IWB #3

[mcgivro]

This is super easy…P365XL with EPS Carry.

[DaBigBR]

19 MOS with Holosun SCS and quality metallic irons.

[Noah]

Having converted a stock PX4CC to LTT-ish form….

The PX4CC has potential in LTT-ish form but in stock form it’s a turd with a slick grip, bad trigger and oversized controls that get in the way of running the gun.

Having to pick one gun for everyone to use for everything is why the Glock 19 is the Glock 19.

Thats why I said CC! You're thinking of the plain Compact. The Compact Carry is also a standard/non custom model available from retailers, that comes with Talon grips, Ameriglo sights, stealth levers, and D spring. Buying it from LTT themselves just adds a full trigger job.

[rob_s]

P365

P30sk V3s

LTT P30s

S&W Shield EZ9s

PX4CC

P365XLs

P-07.

P250.

365 variant

original model Sig P365

PX4CC

365xl

P250c

365XL

P365XL

Sad to say, I had to google most of these. At least the P365 I had an idea of what it looked like. The others I couldn’t even conjure a mental picture. I went ahead and added some links to the above quotes in case others were similar,as.y challenged.

I suppose that taints my answer of “stock Glock 19, Ameriglo sights”.

Also, unless I missed it, no mention of the M&P other than the “ez” model above (which I had to google)?
Not even the 2.0?
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/mp-m20-compact

[flux]

G19 Gen 5. Though I would be comfortable with a gen 3 or 4 to be honest. Dawson fibre sights. Bunch of spare mags . JM kydex holsters. Simple and effective setup .

[RJ]

Order for Standard Level 3 equipment, individual. Shipping Instructions: FOB Alaska (contact the local agent who may be in some kind of airplane or other on arrival Anchorage)


Line Item 1 Pistol Equipment, Field Expedient, NSN 0340-02-203-9GJM:

Quantity Required: 50 Sets

- Pistol, Sig Sauer, P365XL, sku 365XL-9-BXR3P
- Optic, Holosun, EPS Carry, Red, 6 MOA
- Grip Module, P365 Macro
- Magazine, P365XL, extra, 12 round (1)
- Magazine, P365 Macro, 17 round (3 per set)
- Holster, Vedder Light Tuck IWB (right hand) P365XL, Black
- Holster, JM CK R/C, P365 Macro, Black
- Belt, Mastermind Tactics Specialist
- Loader, Maglula, Hot Pink (Barf Yellow authorized until stocks deplete)
- H/L Foam ear plugs (bag 50)
- Sordin Supreme Pro X Ear Pro (fit Noisefighter Gel Seals prior to shipment)
- Battery, CR1620 (2 per set)
- Case, soft, range use, LA Police Gear
- Case, Shipping, Pelican, (Orange)


Line Item 2 Pistol Equipment, Field Expedient, Logistic Support Kits, NSN 4050-22-239-9GJM:

Quantity Required: 5

- Optic, Holosun EPS Carry Red, 6 MOA
- Screw, Torx,, McMaster Carr M3 Flat Head, sku 94414A714 (4 per kit)
- Trigger Bar Spring Kit, P365 (2 per kit)
- Receiver Pin Kit, P365 (2 per kit)
- Slide, P365XL, complete, spare (1 per kit)
- Slide, P365, complete, spare (1 per kit)
- Grip Module, P365XL, spare (1 per kit)
- Grip Module, P365 Macro, spare (1 per kit)
- Battery, CR1620 (5 per kit)
- Case, Shipping, Pelican (OD Green)

Line Item 3 Pistol, Field Expedient, User Service/Special Purpose Kit, NSN 8700-338-8482-9GJM:

Quantity Required: 5

- Holster, Vedder Light Tuck (Left hand)
- Holster, Vedder, Pocket Locker (right hand)
- Holster, Vedder, Pocket Locker (left hand)
- Holster, JM CK R/C, P365 Macro, Black (left hand)
- Grip Module, P365
- Slide Assy, P365, complete
- Magazine, 10 round, P365 (2 per kit)
- Extension, Magazine, Taran Tactical, P365 Macro (+4 rounds) (2 per Kit)
- Case, Shipping, Pelican (OD Green)

[GJM]

I find the other pistol I have been shooting lately also to be very attractive, and that is the XL upper/Macro lower with an EPS Carry.



The reasons I pick the Glock 19 are -- I shoot it better, magazines are more available and cheaper, the SCD, availability of retention holsters for field use, weather resistance in the field, the ability to use a wider range of optics like the Acro, 407CO and RMR/SRO, and all the Glock parts and available aftermarket support.