Things haven't changed from what I've seen.Originally Posted by Borderland
The Custom Shop is still building really nice guns but the production line guns are still just okay. Poorly fit safeties are what puts me off. I will say the new Combat Elites seem a little better made than other offerings, but not nearly up to the level of Custom Shop guns.
The nitride-finished Savage in 9x19 appeals to me. I find the rail a plus as it further moderates what muzzle rise there is. That is a huge plus for my arthritic wrists, regardless of caliber. When I started working from home full-time during COVID, I transitioned from Glock back to the 1911, mostly because I shot up my 9x19 ammo stash and could not get primers to reload. When we moved to FL, I kept working from home so I kept up with the 1911. The 1911 in my holster is nominally a Kimber Warrior. Nominally because the only Kimber parts left are the barrel, frame, and slide. It is checkered at 25 LPI and has a nitride finish. A 9x19 understudy appeals to me.
Savage has recently been introducing and building some quality designs. I expect we will see some additional models, including ones with front strap checkering, if the initial models sell well.
Personally I'm always a bit cold on "yet another manufacturer is building a 1911" but at the same time, I guess gluts bring down prices, not that I can import that stuff anymore (nor do I need another 1911).
Not a big fan of the slide but the two-tones are pretty decent looking, and the nice thing about stainless frames is that you can just cut checkering in, and you're good to go. But I agree for that money, and the money they spent making the slide non-traditionally ugly, they could have just provided checkering from the get go.
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They are but they make nice target pistols.But I thought we were in a striker fired pistol era now. How is it possible there is a market for a new 1911 pattern pistol?
I thought 1911s were antiquated...
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So am I, but I can still get it done.But I thought we were in a striker fired pistol era now. How is it possible there is a market for a new 1911 pattern pistol?
I thought 1911s were antiquated...
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With none actually on the firing line, the boards are still getting revved up in fault finding. The leading gripe is
"HORRORS, THE FRONT STRAP ISN'T CHECKERED!"
I don't know how the factories checker mass produced guns or how much it adds to the cost and price, but it apparently would make sense for Savage to add it. Or maybe a texture to compliment the zoomy slide, quickly done with CNC or laser.
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A different view on checkering:
When I take new shooters or occasional shooters to the range, I want them to be comfortable. Although I would not push trying a .45 1911 on the first trip, at least one female new shooter did so and did well with it. My daughter currently only shoots .22 pistols, but I would like her to try some pistols in more serious defensive calibers, and keeping her comfortable will be a critical part of that process.
Checkering might not be comfortable for everyone who picks up the gun, and I have seen a few guns with really sharp checkering.
A gun that comes with a smooth frontstrap can have friction added multiple ways - Pachmayr grips that wrap around the front, skateboard tape, the Wilson Combat checkered sheet matal piece, stippling, or checkering to the specific shooter's preference.
I do not think omitting checkering was necessarily a mistake.
Man there is NO good info out there about these guns yet. Just announcement blurbs in the press and predictable commentary on the forums.
I'd like to see Hilton Yam do a review, or someone else who can provide reliable and objective information. It's a short list.
My grouch about these not being checkered is more from the standpoint of
"Well then where are the extra 3-400 dollars tacked on to the price tag coming from?"
If the answer was "properly fit barrel" I would be fine with that.
If the answer is "made in America and not MIM ignition parts" then I will start booing and throwing rotten tomatoes
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