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    I have lots of plansÖ JCN's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesa View Post
    I've been paying close attention to the initial grip out of the holster. As mentioned. the grip and the resulting index makes all the difference in achieving the par times. My mount is not completely stable but is as good as I can get it with my current belt and holster. At this point, par times from 7 and 15 are easily met in dry fire and leave space for micro corrections. 3 yards is a different story. I find that I'm often rushing the first shot before I even get a glimpse of the dot. At three yards, it doesn't matter with a decent index but I struggle with the idea that I could be ingraining bad habits. A little live fire will either confirm or dispel the worry.
    Hey, sorry. I have a neck injury that is making my right arm numb, so I am trying to rest it and stay off the computer as much as I can. It flares up when I do work so I am trying to save my healing time for absolutely necessary things. So Iíve cut off anything not critical with regard to phones and computers. I canít even dry fire at this point.

    But I did want to address your concern quickly and then go back to resting.

    Sight picture is not just using your sights.

    It is using your vision.

    So if you are drawing quickly and getting your first shot off when you have good vision of the gun, but not necessarily the sights, that is OK and not a bad habit.

    If you keep working, you will get the gun up faster and ideally get some a flash of red in the window, but it is not necessary to still be using your vision to get on target.

    It is not pure index shooting if you are still using some vision on the gun and on the target. That is not limited to just red dot or irons in a traditional sight picture.

    OK, back to resting my arm. I have vacation in a week or two and hopefully can rest up enough to jump back on then.
    I enjoy helping people get better.

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    Vision picture

    When I say sight picture I really mean vision picture.

    So the SWYNTS includes the whole continuum of vision.

    The better your index, the less vision you need.

    The more mechanical stability in your draw and grip, the farther your index takes you with regards to hits.

    Traditional sight picture using the sights are only necessary at 7 yards and farther for most people with good indexes.

    And close up itís not pure index if youíre using some vision.

    I was joking with a friend:

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    I absolutely have a sight (vision) picture here. Iím 100% confident that Iím on target.

    Iím using my eyes to localize my hand position but my index tells me that my hand position has the right angle and orientation.

    If that makes sense.
    I enjoy helping people get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    Hey, sorry. I have a neck injury that is making my right arm numb, so I am trying to rest it and stay off the computer as much as I can. It flares up when I do work so I am trying to save my healing time for absolutely necessary things. So Iíve cut off anything not critical with regard to phones and computers. I canít even dry fire at this point.

    But I did want to address your concern quickly and then go back to resting.

    Sight picture is not just using your sights.

    It is using your vision.

    So if you are drawing quickly and getting your first shot off when you have good vision of the gun, but not necessarily the sights, that is OK and not a bad habit.

    If you keep working, you will get the gun up faster and ideally get some a flash of red in the window, but it is not necessary to still be using your vision to get on target.

    It is not pure index shooting if you are still using some vision on the gun and on the target. That is not limited to just red dot or irons in a traditional sight picture.

    OK, back to resting my arm. I have vacation in a week or two and hopefully can rest up enough to jump back on then.
    Hope you heal up quickly! I sympathize with your injury status; it seems they accumulate and last longer the older we get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risto View Post
    Hope you heal up quickly! I sympathize with your injury status; it seems they accumulate and last longer the older we get
    Totally. Physical stuff gets harder and harder, I expect Iíll ďretireĒ into Steel Challenge someday.

    Iím inspired by people like @Jamesa pushing 70 and still going at it!
    I enjoy helping people get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    Totally. Physical stuff gets harder and harder, I expect Iíll ďretireĒ into Steel Challenge someday.

    Iím inspired by people like @Jamesa pushing 70 and still going at it!
    Feel better soon!

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