A buddy and I were discussing our return to the USA wantsies, and we're both got the watsies for a 1301... so if Beretta brings something out that's in that financial sweet spot between the 1301 and a Mossy 590, we'd be interested.
A buddy and I were discussing our return to the USA wantsies, and we're both got the watsies for a 1301... so if Beretta brings something out that's in that financial sweet spot between the 1301 and a Mossy 590, we'd be interested.
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I’ve got a bunch of Beretta pistols, and have always wanted a Beretta semi-auto shotgun. Maybe this will finally be what it takes for me to get one?
I think you'll be a-okay. I have a gen 1 1301T that I've done some work to, and that's not going anywhere; just gonna make some room for the new ones too. The really fun thing will be this is one of 3 or 4 neat product launches we have planned around SHOT.Originally Posted by GearFondler
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I can dream that one of them is a carbine-length PMX or an upgraded CX4 that kicks the ever-lovin' glutes of the AR-based 9mm's and the Ruger PC's.
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And for someone coming from pumps who wanted their first semi-auto, I’m guessing this thing wouldn’t be a bad choice?
No, it would not.
Just be prepared to put in the work to learn new manual of arms / manipulations. Including working around an optic, and you will want an optic to maximize the potential of the semi.
I realized I missed this one. I wont be able to answer everything just yet, but:
- The 1301 is most certainly NOT going to be discontinued. Not even a little bit. In fact, I've got separate stuff I'm working on for that platform as well.
- I don't think I can really comment specifics on price, but I a lot of folks here have gotten it right, and we know what line in the market is wide open.
- This gun will be marked "Beretta USA Corp., Gallatin TN, Made in the USA"
For the other; we had a bit of a stumble during COVID, and CS went under new management. They've rebuilt a lot, and are continuing to improve systems and expand; I'm not going to say we're perfect there, but its an area we're investing in to improve on continuously. We are stocking spare parts on this gun with CS pre-launch just in case. Release date for this gun is in January; can't say specific days because that's not really my department and I don't know what they have planned there or what the social landscape will look like.
As to meeting demand and supply chain, I can't really share our position, but anyone in manufacturing can tell you the world isn't quite back to 100% pre-vid stability, and anyone in the industry can tell you things are in a fairly unique position right now (at least it looks that way with the data I have access to).
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that fact is the one possible crack in the armor to bringing a 1301 (or the new mystery gun) home as my wife is very happy with her "legacy model" a300 Outlander synthetic for sporting clays.
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I'm interested in this new offering. I'm hopeful that it'll be completely "turn key" as at this age and after a couple of decades of fiddle-fart with cars and bikes and guns and tools... I'm all about turn key these days.
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If they work as well as the one I handled, no. It'd be a pretty solid choice for a semi-auto shotgun if you didn't want to buy the 1301.
As I said, I'm not giving up my 1301's anytime soon because they're my favorite semi-auto shotgun. The reliability and adaptability of the gun to defensive use thanks to innovations from Aridus is unmatched.
The new gun won't change any of that about the 1301. But based on what I handled it will give folks a gun that runs well with an extremely wide range of ammunition that comes out of the box already well suited to defensive application at a price that's going to be very attractive when compared to buying a 1301T and modifying it, especially as it seems to have a number of thoughtful touches on the gun from the factory that reduce the need/desire for mods. And given supply chain and energy issues plaguing most of the world right now, it will likely be more readily available to boot.
It's certainly something I'm likely to end up buying so I can run it in classes as a teaching and loaner gun and give it the full shakedown in the hands of experienced and inexperienced people alike. I'm not anticipating any problems doing that.
My hope here is that Beretta is seeing a surge in the desire for good defensive-oriented shotguns that my gut tells me is happening in the world and they're moving to capitalize on that.
The defensive gauge is running in a renaissance now, driven not in small part I think by more people pushing intelligent training and intelligent discussions about its virtues in the hands of people who need to protect themselves. The fact that a company like Beretta is putting in the effort to bring another defensive scattergun option to the market indicates employees within the company who are seeing opportunity and executives who are seeing the business case for investing the huge pile of money it takes to develop things like furniture that go on the gun.
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