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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Peart View Post
    Are the 300's a different gas system than the 1301 or just a more bare bones version?
    Whole Nuther Animal, but very similar performance and features. Primary difference would be the recoil spring in the A300 extending into the stock, eliminating the option to adapt the Magpul SGA stock.
    ETA: Made in Tennessee (A300) and not Italy (1301).

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    Here's what I'm sure will sound like a dumb question, regarding the safety location. With other weapons equipped with a manual safety (AR, 590A1, etc), I've tried to follow my prior training in engaging the safety when reloading, moving, etc.

    What is y'alls method for quickly engage the safety with these shotguns that have it on the front of the trigger guard? It doesn't look like it's easy to engage with the firing hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rat View Post
    Here's what I'm sure will sound like a dumb question, regarding the safety location. With other weapons equipped with a manual safety (AR, 590A1, etc), I've tried to follow my prior training in engaging the safety when reloading, moving, etc.

    What is y'alls method for quickly engage the safety with these shotguns that have it on the front of the trigger guard? It doesn't look like it's easy to engage with the firing hand.
    Not a dumb question. I have not found a slick way to re-engage the safety. I break my firing grip off the stock and give it the ol' reach around underneath the front of the trigger guard with the trigger finger to get it back on safe. Definitely not as quick/easy as a Remington with the safety at the rear of the triggerguard or a Mossberg tang safety. *However*, I find I much prefer the A300 safety placement because my trigger finger can deactivate the safety without any contortion of the trigger finger or breaking of my firing grip - and then go right to the trigger. It is a very quick, natural movement for me. It might be argued that placing the gun back on safe is a more "administrative" manipulation i.e., not something that has to be done in a huge hurry; whereas being able to quickly and fluidly get the gun off safe and is highly desirable. All that to say, I think the pros outweigh the cons on the placement of the A300 safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rat View Post
    What is y'alls method for quickly engage the safety with these shotguns that have it on the front of the trigger guard? It doesn't look like it's easy to engage with the firing hand.
    I use a Beretta when I shoot three gun, and (unless it is locked open, and even then still best practice) you must engage the safety before you transition and leave it. My method is to rotate the gun and move my strong hand thumb up and engage it. Dunno if this is the Best Ninja Method or not, it is just what I taught myself on the fly. Also, this is when I am about to toss my nice gun in an old barrel anyway so I am breaking my grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Peart View Post
    Nothing some Krylon can't fix.

    Are the 300's a different gas system than the 1301 or just a more bare bones version?
    I believe I read somewhere that the A300 operating system was developed in 1967/68. It's not old, it's proven.

    The A300 may not run as fast or lighten the recoil as much as the 1301, but it is still a delight to shoot. I do wish it could accept an SGA stock, but because a part of the recoil system extends out the back of the receiver and into the stock, that's a no go (and it cannot have a folding stock either). But we now have the Chisel Manufacturing pistol grip stock available if that's your thing, so there's that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Peart View Post
    Nothing some Krylon can't fix.

    Are the 300's a different gas system than the 1301 or just a more bare bones version?
    Spray can go PSSST. Good way to get a gun in tan that doesn't get stupid hot in the sunlight on a summer day.
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