Week 47: DB Modified LAPD SWAT Qual

[DocGKR]

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Week 47: DB Modified LAPD SWAT Qual
results may be posted until 11:59pm EDT on Monday 8-October-2012.

Range: 3 to 25 yds
Target: 8” circle for body; 3x5 card for head. The PT FAST target is an easy option to use: http://pistol-training.com/wp-conten...ast-target.pdf (print out on legal size paper)
Start position: concealed or duty retention holster
Rounds fired: 36 or 50

25 yds: 2 body under 4 sec--3x (same as the Defoor Test #2 shot in DOW #40)
15 yds: 2 body under 3 sec--3x
10 yds: 2 body then 1 head under 3.5 sec--2x
7 yds: 2 body then 1 head under 3 sec--2x
5 yds: 2 body then 1 head under 2.5 sec--2x
3 yds: 2 body then 1 head under 2 sec--2x

Bonus movement drill if you are not restricted by asinine nanny rules from moving on your range while shooting:
10 yards to 3 yards while on the move: 6 body then 1 head under 5 sec--2x
(Note that this means shooting while actually moving, NOT taking a few shots in a static position before moving, then stopping to take some more shots midway, then making the final shot while stopped at 3 yds—any shots taken while not moving are considered a miss)

This DOW is intended to be shot from the holster. If you must shoot from the ready, as a result of your crappy range’s stupid policies, reduce allowable time by 1 sec for each drill. Any round totally off the target is an automatic DQ (ie. 100% hits required to pass).

Please report the following when responding to this thread:

• Start position (pistol, holster type, concealment)
• For each segment of the test, report the time to complete and number of hits.

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

[DocGKR]

G19 w/RMR07 carried AIWB in a Fricke Seraphim from under a Patagonia shirt firing Fed AE9FP 147 gr FMJ

25 yds: 3.55/3.98/3.77, all hits
15 yds: 2.71/2.66/2.95, all hits
10 yds: 2.76/2.55, all hits
7 yds: 2.58/2.53, all hits
5 yds: 2.38/2.27, all hits
3 yds: 1.92/1.90, all hits
10-3 yds SOM: 4.33/4.68, all hits

This is one of the best drills I have seen to prepare LE personnel for a lethal force encounter.

[MDS]

G19 AIWB in a Keeper under an untucked polo firing Aguila 124gr JHP

25 yds: 3.52/3.58/3.22, 3 misses (Too far to be sure but I think it went: hit/hit; hit/miss; miss/miss)

15 yds: 2.62/2.52/2.50, 1 miss (I believe it was the second shot on the last string)

10 yds: 2.83/2.44, all hits (I accidentally ran it a third time for 3.33 -1 body)

7 yds: 2.99/2.86, 1 miss (head on second run)

5 yds: 2.77/2.26, all hits

3 yds: 2.13/2.25, all hits

SOM: I wish


This was fun and educational. I've been spending so much time at the 7yd line that I'm less than authoritative at other ranges. The 3yd runs especially - I was getting all hits under 2s easily with a little practice. I'll be running this drill as part of my regular practice routine.

[TCinVA]

Low ready start using low-ready par, (Can't draw from a holster at my range ) pistol was a Hi-Point C9 9mm pistol.

25 yds (3 second PAR): 2.83/2.89/2.98
15 yds (2 second PAR): 1.94/1.96/2.00
10 yds (2.5 second PAR): 2.23/2.41
7 yds (2 second PAR): 1.98/1.84
5 yds (1.5 second PAR): 1.49/1.42
3 yds (1 second PAR): .97/.99

SOTM: Don't make me laugh.



Pic is sideways because I suck at cell phone photography. Had to arrange the 3x5 beside the "body" to keep on the range's backstop at all distances.

Took 350 rounds to actually shoot the qual clean. I could either make the time or make the accuracy. Transitions to the 3x5 card were the worst part, as I kept putting shots just below or just above the 3x5 due to anticipation or getting ahead of the sights. At the end I finally managed to put it all together and stick the head shots and keep the "body" shots inside the 8 ring. Based on my experience I wouldn't recommend the Hi-Point for LAPD SWAT.

[Coyotesfan97]

We modded our SWAT qualification from the LAPD qual. I'll post it when I can copy it from work. This COF looks familiar!


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[DocGKR]

"Based on my experience I wouldn't recommend the Hi-Point for LAPD SWAT."

This may be the first time the LAPD SWAT Qual was ever shot with a Hi-Point...

[TCinVA]

This may be the first time the LAPD SWAT Qual was ever shot with a Hi-Point...

I'm sure they'd get a kick out of seeing somebody shoot their qual with a gun they're probably used to taking off of bad guys.

[Mr_White]

Start position: Gen3 G34 concealed in a Keeper under a t-shirt

25yds: 3.06, 3.08, 2.88
15yds: 2.18, 2.24, 2.06
10yds: 2.39, 2.60
7yds: 2.28, 2.16
5yds: 2.00, 1.91
3yds: 1.55, 1.51
10-3yds SOM: 3.71, 4.03

All hits.

I tried to just take it really easy on the time and be absolutely sure of all the hits. A few of the body shots were only barely in, but the head shots came out pretty nicely.

[IMG] 1003121208-00 by OrigamiAK, on Flickr[/IMG]

[YVK]

Mine is incomplete, but I won't be able to reshoot, so I am posting this anyway. The timer battery died and too many shooters on the range to figure out my times.
I did 25 and 15 yards portions, 3 misses on 25, one on 15, missed par twice on 25, and then the timer was no more.

Biggest realization today was that using 5.5 inch bull + "credit" for hits within additional 2.5 inches of extra-diameter around it vs actual 8 inch bullseye set me up for a failure. Such target substitution is OK within 7 yards, but at 25 it was stupid. I am getting senile...

AIWB Kolbeson, P30 Lem.

[AJZ]

Weapon: M&P 9 FS
Gear: Ludus Magnus MMA AIWB under untucked Polo

25yds: 3.14, 3.18, 3.61 (-1)
15yds: 2.39, 2.62, 2.98 (-1)
10yds: 2.80, 2.99 (-1)
7yds: 2.38, 2.60
3yds: 2.06, 2.11
3yds: 1.80, 1.74

Not a stellar week for me.