In your use-case, I'd go with the 18.5" barrel and use these:
https://www.mossberg.com/flex-conver...uge-96026.html
https://www.mossberg.com/flex-standa...lop-95226.html
In your use-case, I'd go with the 18.5" barrel and use these:
https://www.mossberg.com/flex-conver...uge-96026.html
https://www.mossberg.com/flex-standa...lop-95226.html
"It's surprising how often you start wondering just how featureless a desert some people's inner landscapes must be."
-Maple Syrup Actual
I agree. It used to be if you wanted a take down shotgun, you had to deal with a finicky mechanism that split the gun at the barrel and mag tube junction. I think the flex system looks perfect.
The only problem is, I haven’t been able to find the standalone conversion kit in stock since before the pandemic.
I was into 10mm Auto before it sold out and went mainstream, but these days I'm here for the revolver and epidemiology information.
I have a 14" Shockwave with a CT laser on it.
I can use it. It's about twice as slow at everything as having an actual stock and sights, but I can use it.
I don't use it much because I already have enough problems in my shoulders, hands, and elbows due to life's wear and tear without heaping the consequences of lots of stockless shotgunning on top of them. On the occasion where I feel the need for a low profile upgrade to my carried handgun when travelling I've been known to take my Shockwave with me. Because even at half my usual speed with a shotgun I'm still at a significant advantage over just my pistol.
Lasers on long guns...or whatever we want to call these things...are not as automatic as you might think. We can use a long gun quickly and efficiently because we're using the stock to align our eye and the sighting system of the gun in a consistent fashion. That's not happening as readily using the laser because the aiming reference is remote. If I bring the gun to my eye so I can find the laser I can bring the gun to my eye to find an optic.
The "cheek gun" concept is essentially trying to replicate that specific benefit of a stock. If you "cheek" the gun you'll find the laser on target pretty readily.
...but you can also use an optic mounted on top of the gun that way.
FFC doesn't generally care what length barrel you shoot it out of. It patterns brilliantly out of my Shockwave.
I don't see the point in going for an 18" barrel when you can just get the 14" version. If length is the issue, get it shorter on both ends not just the handling one. Installing and removing the stock on a shotgun repeatedly is kind of a pain in the ass.
Last edited by TCinVA; 11-14-2022 at 09:35 AM.
3/15/2016
I'm looking at a tidy little year end bonus and unless something emergent comes up, a 14" Shockwave-S is happening in my world. I'm a yuge 12 gauge fan and shorty shotties make my heart beat a little faster.
Years ago, I put 4 quick rounds through a friend's genuine Witness Protection, using a stance much like @03RN, I bounced the empty coffee can with every shot. As I handed it back, he said he was leaving it to me in his will since no one else had ever run that way, everyone else had fired it from the hip with the attendant results. What optic are you running and how is it mounted?
Speaking of @RustyCrusty, his video of the Federal Shorty shells really has me licking my chops:
Last edited by Gun Mutt; 12-10-2022 at 06:54 PM.
Mr. Bolke is a fan of the 18” birdshead grip build because it allows 50 state travel with a familiar pump shotgun setup that is also as short as *legally* possible.
There’s a few extreme close quarters techniques I only cover in class that are more difficult to manage with a stock that can still be used with the 18” Birdshead. Some maneuverability is sacrificed with the added four inches over the shockwave, but not all of it. For those that travel much with the gun and those living under more tyrannical gun laws, the juice may be worth the squeeze.
Remember that the Birdshead equipped 18” 590 is still 2” shorter than the SBS or braced Shockwave…
Paying $200 and a years time gets you *less* mobility added than simply swapping to a Birdshead grip