Yes: I'm not confident in the P320's safety record
No: I believe the gun is mechanically sound.
For me the slightly thinner guns really work better then the standard thickness guns. I may really like a P2000 with a RDO but it's hard to want to spend that much money and effort to get one and get it milled when I know thinner is better for me.Originally Posted by CCT125US
A perfect AIWB gun for me would be a LEM with a thumb safety. I’m not saying it’s the most logical or practical shooting option, but it would give me that comfort level I really want out of a gun carried that way.
We need to start a campaign.
“Make the P320 a P250 again.”
So the question I am left with is am I a fool for getting an M18 brand new at this point? I can't seem to tell if there's truly any 100% certain cases of discharge without pulling a trigger on these guns which are not pre-upgrade.
Just scrap the stupid innards and make a bigger P 365!
I’d say you are safe.
My opinion is worth what you paid for it.
No, not at all. A post June 2019 320 with a thumb safety is the best possible 320 option with regard to safety.
No.
Many of the negatives of the 320 are the result of adapting the P250 to a striker fired gun instead of starting from a clean piece of paper. No reason to compound the error.
It was a joke.
Though I would prefer a P250 style gun. A P250 with HK QC/parts quality. Why live in reality?
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think I've ever heard of a single manual safety P320 / M17 / M18 that's discharged with the safety engaged? I've read through dozens of pages of the other thread and also looked at some of the known court cases, and I can't recall a single MS variant being mentioned.
More and more it seems that there's likely no real AD issue with a post June 2019 P320, other than the reduced margin of error of the trigger due to the overall design. The MS variant, properly used and with the safety engaged in a proper holster would seem to practically eliminate that low margin of error.
Man, if only I had infinite access to a CNC and actually knew how to use CAD software. I'd spend a bunch of free time figuring out how to invent an LEM-style 2-piece hammer for the P250. That would be rad.
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