Sorry, too late to edit my post just above...and the bonus is that neither of the belts has nor requires velcro.
Finis.
Sorry, too late to edit my post just above...and the bonus is that neither of the belts has nor requires velcro.
Finis.
There's nothing civil about this war.
Before Daltech was selling Biothane in the tactical space, Maxpedition was doing so with the Liger Belt. Now unobtanium btw. I have 2 Ligers and have used them extensively IWB/AIWB/OWB with 1911s.
https://www.amazon.com/Maxpedition-L...ct_top?ie=UTF8
I have only handled the Daltech. Given the feel and my experience with the material, You would be GTG running a 1911 OWB.
I am not your attorney. I am not giving legal advice. Any and all opinions expressed are personal and my own and are not those of any employer-past, present or future.
I have gone exclusively with Groove Belts. They are plenty stiff to hold my Glock 19 with SRO and a clinch pick all day everyday yet are stretchy enough as to be completely comfortable all day. I used to use Wilderness Tactical belts but they are too stiff for me for AIWB. I still use a 5 stitch polymer insert Wilderness as my IDPA gamer belt.
Gents, has anyone tried Volund’s Atlas in Slim Biothane configuration? 1.8mm biothane may be the ticket for AIWB.
I have used the regular scuba body non-slim Atlas in that role, and while it’s doable, it’s more stiff and less flexible than ideal and was better relegated to OWB range/game belt.
@vcdgrips I’m generally a fan of biothane. My First Spear biothane belt has served me well for the better part of a decade, though it was considerably less expensive back then.
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Thanks. I love my Mastermind for AIWB/IWB, but it’s not ideal for heavy OWB. For OWB, I love my Mean Gene Leather belts, which hold up a 1911 and spare mags easily. But their thickness limits the use of some holsters. I noticed the Daltech is only 5/32” thick, and if it holds up a 1911 well, then this might work for those other holsters that don’t fit thicker belts.
I know this thread is a few months old but I wanted to give an update. I finally got around to ordering the Daltech SuperBio belt. I got the all-black version and really like how it looks. It can double as a casual belt or dress belt. It’s also very comfortable, and while it’s stiff enough to serve as a good gun belt it’s also thinner than your typical 1/4” thick leather gun belt, which means it’s much easier to slide holster slots through. It’s that latter characteristic that makes it really shine. The only drawback, however, is that it can’t quite hold up to carrying my fullsize, all-steel 1911 in an OWB holster as well as my 1/4” Mean Gene Leather gun belt without having to tighten it down a bit much to keep it from sagging or bowing out the gun/holster combo. But I don’t have to tighten it down as much as I would have with a few other nylon/synthetic gun belts I’ve tried when carrying the same heavy gun in an OWB holster. With that said, it handles my heavy 1911 in an IWB holster just fine.
All in all, I’m definitely keeping it, and I think it’s a pretty good value for what you get. But I’m still on the search for that elusive belt thin enough to easily thread holster slots through but strong and stiff enough to handle a heavy 1911 in an OWB holster without sagging or needing to overtighten it a bit.
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Thanks for the update.
As belt thickness is driving the train, perhaps the polymer lined wilderness belt mentioned in post #6? The 1.75 Wilderness Instructor Belt CSM (polymer lined) was THE school solution for an entire generation of 1911 folks. Absolutely thinner than most two ply leather gun belts. I used mine with great success in a number of classes to include a invitation on Gunsite 250 running a Kimber series 1 5 inch all steel 1911 w a double mag pouch OWB.
Given that some pants these days do not have true 1.75 inch belt loops, I suspect that the 1.5 inch version of the instructor belt (CSM), might be a better buy. Given that strength/weight bearing is driving the train, I would likely stick with the original version with the metal buckle as opposed to the “Frequent Flyer “ model which uses polymer rings.
https://www.thewilderness.com/belts/...structor-belt/
IIRC, Daltech sells a leather on too though the insert is steel and you may find the two plus of leather too thick.
https://www.daltechforce.com/collect...r-deep-black-1
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Thanks for the reply and excellent info! Funny you mention the Wilderness CSM belt as an option as that is one I’ve recently been looking at. I do have a 1.75” wide Klik belt with reinforced inner that works superbly to handle all kinds of weight. But it is just as thick as the 1/4” thick leather gun belts, and because it is 1.75” wide, pant belt loops and holster slots become the limiting factor. Instead, I use it in conjunction with a “battle belt” for the occasional Run-n-Gun biathlon events.
I was wondering about the thickness of the Wilderness CSM belts, and now that you say they’re actually a bit thinner than the dedicated leather gun belts, I may give that one a try.
Thanks again!