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    Define “New”

    Looking at a new Smith at a local shop. Clearly visible turn line on the cylinder. Where do you draw the line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    Looking at a new Smith at a local shop. Clearly visible turn line on the cylinder. Where do you draw the line?
    Maybe that's one of the ones that got returned and fixed. Maybe.
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    I ask before rotating the cylinder, and only do it once to check timing. With Colt Pythons and King Cobras, there is much less chance of forming a turn line. If the price is good, and the line doesn’t look like a hundred tire kickers had a Wild West show with it, I’d overlook the turn line.

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    The NRA definition of new is unfired (not counting factory test and proof), not previously sold at retail.

    A turn line could have been applied by looks-loos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    Looking at a new Smith at a local shop. Clearly visible turn line on the cylinder. Where do you draw the line?
    Disregard, not enough coffee yet to properly shit-talk new production S&W revolvers...
    Last edited by tango-papa; 09-27-2022 at 10:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    Where do you draw the line?
    Personally? At the addition of the internal lock.

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    Significance of a turn line?

    Okay- I’ll admit I’m a revolver philistine…

    But I want to learn.

    What is the significance of a turn line?
    Does it indicate something is out of adjustment?

    A S&W 640 I looked at a couple of months ago had one, and I’ve been wondering about it since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GyroF-16 View Post
    Okay- I’ll admit I’m a revolver philistine…

    But I want to learn.

    What is the significance of a turn line?
    Does it indicate something is out of adjustment?

    A S&W 640 I looked at a couple of months ago had one, and I’ve been wondering about it since then.
    A turn line is normal on some revolvers, probably most revolvers, and an indication of a problem on some. A properly-tuned Colt SAA, for example, should not drag the part (that Colt calls the “bolt,” and most other manufacturers call a “cylinder stop”) along the cylinder, as it rotates. So, when I am ogling the display of pre-owned revolvers, a Colt SAA will not even get a second glance, if it has a turn line. I expect a new or used S&W or Ruger to have a turn line, but not a deeply gouged turn line.
    Last edited by Rex G; 09-27-2022 at 11:56 AM.
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    The way some cylinder stops leave the factory, it only takes a few turns for a line to appear on the cylinder. A proper deburring/polishing of the cylinder stop goes a long way toward reducing the rate of development of the turn line. There's no need for it to have hard-sharp edges. Broken smooth and polished functions quite nicely. One more reason that a revolver should come apart down to the last piece that isn't a press/torqued fit and have everything inspected and gone over carefully before being placed in service.
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