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    New 2011 red dot division

    Lately, there has been a lot of chatter about USPSA having a new or provisional division for 2011 pistols with a red dot.

    I am assuming no comp and a slide mounted optic but no idea whether just minor, 140mm, mag wells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    Lately, there has been a lot of chatter about USPSA having a new or provisional division for 2011 pistols with a red dot.

    I am assuming no comp and a slide mounted optic but no idea whether just minor, 140mm, mag wells?
    If that meant CO would go to 15+1 rounds, I could get behind* that.

    *but not interested in shooting it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    If that meant CO would go to 15+1 rounds, I could get behind* that.

    *but not interested in shooting it
    Isn't CO limited to mag length, not cap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCT125US View Post
    Isn't CO limited to mag length, not cap?
    Yes, currently it allows 140mm mags. You can't be competitive without mags that hold 23+1, and which are not super reliable without fiddling.

    How a 140mm mag fits into "Carry" optics, I have no idea..
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    @Clusterfrack ah, read that wrong. I'm thinking about delving into the world of USPSA CO and it's disconcerting to hear that one needs 23+1 to be competitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCT125US View Post
    @Clusterfrack ah, read that wrong. I'm thinking about delving into the world of USPSA CO and it's disconcerting to hear that one needs 23+1 to be competitive.
    Depends on how "competitive" you want to be... Plenty of people shoot CO with smaller mags. But when a stage is 24 rounds and the top shooters are all doing it without a reload, there really is no choice if you want to be in it for the win.
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    I don't claim to understand USPSA division/division requirements logic but I sure wish they would abandon the notion that Steel Challenge has to track USPSA division-wise WRT centerfire handguns. I know I won't live long enough to see single action allowed in CO for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Depends on how "competitive" you want to be... Plenty of people shoot CO with smaller mags. But when a stage is 24 rounds and the top shooters are all doing it without a reload, there really is no choice if you want to be in it for the win.
    There sure are examples of that, like a stage at the Limited/CO nationals a few years back, that was a close range 24 round speed shoot. Interestingly, with more challenging targets, I would almost always reload rather than shoot to slide lock, because the care I invest in not needing a make up shot usually negates the time advantage of skipping a reload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdtompki View Post
    I don't claim to understand USPSA division/division requirements logic but I sure wish they would abandon the notion that Steel Challenge has to track USPSA division-wise WRT centerfire handguns. I know I won't live long enough to see single action allowed in CO for example.
    Hey, steel challenge has optic revolvers with comps… wish those were allowed in USPSA revolver!

    I bought a pair of Prodigies and ordered some 29 round mags hoping that the new division allows 170mm… I mean if Springfield has factory 26 rounders…

    I would love to have an excuse to go back to 1911s…

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCN View Post
    I would love to have an excuse to go back to 1911s…
    Same here except exactly the opposite
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