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Thread: Wadcutters vs everything else

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by the Schwartz View Post
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    Got an email asking about Lucy gunner but I don’t see it in the thread?

    Anyways post #1 references Lucky Gunner?

  2. #22
    Looky at what else I found. It's actually hotter than what I'd prefer, but perhaps it might appeal to others. You can't beat the price!

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020447045?pid=357002

    It's not my intention to shill for Midway, this is just where I found it in stock.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by 358156hp View Post
    Looky at what else I found. It's actually hotter than what I'd prefer, but perhaps it might appeal to others. You can't beat the price!

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020447045?pid=357002



    It's not my intention to shill for Midway, this is just where I found it in stock.
    That's some pretty warm stuff especially if that velocity is from a 2'' snubby. Ouch.
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  4. #24
    I know theres another post that has pics of this
    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....=1#post1053568

    “I've shot a number of deer with Remington WCs. From a 642 they "stick" when they hit the skull, leave a large entry wound, don't exit, and pulp the brain. Instant lights out. On double lung shots I've noted that on the entry side WCs through a rib (deer ribs are much large and more robust that people ribs for anyone who hasn't seen one) make a splintered hole large than the bullet, will penetrate all the way through, have enough energy to penetrate the rib on the far side and get stuck under the skin. JHPs that I've made similar shots with, like Critical Defense, tend to leave a bullet sized clean hole in the rib on the entry side, like it's been hit with a drill bit.

    I've seen very, very few JHPs actually expand from a snub. Even one's designed for that use. Many old school loads, such as the 110gr +P+, that do expand fail to penetrate nearly enough for my comfort.”

    Just to be clear the main reason I posted this was because of the link in th OP. When you look at the penetration of 38 loads from a 2” barrel nothing really penetrates like a wadcutter unless you go to +p velocities. Another observation was how poorly most .38 loads from a 2” perform. It helped me really see it with all the data in one chart.
    Last edited by UNK; 09-03-2022 at 11:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNK View Post
    I know theres another post that has pics of this
    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....=1#post1053568

    “I've shot a number of deer with Remington WCs. From a 642 they "stick" when they hit the skull, leave a large entry wound, don't exit, and pulp the brain. Instant lights out. On double lung shots I've noted that on the entry side WCs through a rib (deer ribs are much large and more robust that people ribs for anyone who hasn't seen one) make a splintered hole large than the bullet, will penetrate all the way through, have enough energy to penetrate the rib on the far side and get stuck under the skin. JHPs that I've made similar shots with, like Critical Defense, tend to leave a bullet sized clean hole in the rib on the entry side, like it's been hit with a drill bit.

    I've seen very, very few JHPs actually expand from a snub. Even one's designed for that use. Many old school loads, such as the 110gr +P+, that do expand fail to penetrate nearly enough for my comfort.”

    Just to be clear the main reason I posted this was because of the link in th OP. When you look at the penetration of 38 loads from a 2” barrel nothing really penetrates like a wadcutter unless you go to +p velocities. Another observation was how poorly most .38 loads from a 2” perform. It helped me really see it with all the data in one chart.
    I forget if I've tested my HST reloads from a 2" barrel. I get 930fps from a 3" barrel. I need to test them. I tested them for accuracy and they were pretty impressive.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    I forget if I've tested my HST reloads from a 2" barrel. I get 930fps from a 3" barrel. I need to test them. I tested them for accuracy and they were pretty impressive.
    What caliber?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNK View Post
    What caliber?
    38 special.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    38 special.
    Hst micro?

    From Federals website
    Caliber 38 Special +P
    Grain Weight 130
    Bullet Style Jacketed Hollow Point
    Muzzle Velocity 890
    Test Barrel Length In 4-V
    Package Quantity 20
    Usage Self-Defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNK View Post
    Hst micro?
    No, I used pulled 9mm 147gr HSTs

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by 03RN View Post
    No, I used pulled 9mm 147gr HSTs
    You are a madman 😁👍

    Edited to ask I assume this is not from a J frame
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