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Thread: What are characteristics of a pistol that will run the cheapest 9mm reliably?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Whatever you are experiencing it’s something unique to you or your gun.
    Sadly that is the story of my life.

    The G45 and 19X are not spring heavier. The use the exact same RSA (and slides and barrels) as G19 Gen 5s.

    Glock does occasionally produce a lemon, especially in times of high demand. A buddy has both a G-45 in a 19 X, one of which sheets like a typical GEN five Glock and the other was producing 10-12” groups at 25 yards. We swapped barrels between the two guns and the accuracy issue followed the barrel.

    Maybe there’s something about the barrel chamber or extractor/ejector of your particular G 45 ?
    In fairness, I can only comment on the Glock 45 not the Glock 19X because the Glock45 is the gun that I own that has the issues. Back to the original posters question, this gun does not perform with underpowered ammo like the Blaser Brass 115 grain load. I am pretty sure that it had issues with the 115 Grain American Eagle FMJ, but it has been a while since I fired it.

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    @ Ed L : I'd respectfully suggest you contact Glock on the accuracy issue. People have generally had good customer service here in the US. 10"+ groups no bueno...
    There have been several posts about bullet weights, pressure, etc. in the Radian comp thread, to the point where I shot some "hot" 115gr.ammo(like ~1300fps) and that worked. Someone had stoppages with 124 AE and the comp(?). Our experience with "duty" ammo is the Gen5s seem to like heavier projectiles a bit better; 147s and 135s seem "tighter", but to be fair, we haven't really studied/tested.
    I've said it before, but most Service pistols were probably initially tested with NATO spec ball ammo, which I understand is 124 +p range. Get outside the weight/velocity/pressure parameters and you start having to fiddle with recoil springs.
    To the OP, I've shot Tula, Wolf etc. and I expect some sort of stoppage with "bargain" ammo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trstn View Post
    And that would be...?
    (edited for the children, but you get the idea)

    "Glock chambers are like a porn star's rear opening, they'll take anything."
    #RESIST

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    Think I’ll probably just get a g19 lol. Thanks for the help everybody 👍

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    Back in the early 90’s you used to able to buy cheap milspec 9mm machine gun ammunition, which super hard primers. The only pistol that I found that would run it consistently was a Ruger P89. At the time friends of mine had a SIG 226, a CZ75 and I also had a Glock 17. None of those pistols would consistently touch off that old stuff. But that P89 ate it like candy. It was clunky, big and heavy, but it was reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moped View Post
    Back in the early 90’s you used to able to buy cheap milspec 9mm machine gun ammunition, which super hard primers. The only pistol that I found that would run it consistently was a Ruger P89. At the time friends of mine had a SIG 226, a CZ75 and I also had a Glock 17. None of those pistols would consistently touch off that old stuff. But that P89 ate it like candy. It was clunky, big and heavy, but it was reliable.
    That’s something. I would love a p95. Might have to search around. Hopefully mags are still working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moped View Post
    Back in the early 90’s you used to able to buy cheap milspec 9mm machine gun ammunition, which super hard primers. The only pistol that I found that would run it consistently was a Ruger P89. At the time friends of mine had a SIG 226, a CZ75 and I also had a Glock 17. None of those pistols would consistently touch off that old stuff. But that P89 ate it like candy. It was clunky, big and heavy, but it was reliable.
    I had the same experience with my P89; a friend of mine had some hard-primerd Israeli SMG 9mm, and my P89 was capable of sending it downrange.

    Best, Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trstn View Post
    That’s something. I would love a p95. Might have to search around. Hopefully mags are still working.
    In the classic Ruger P-series 9mm lineup, I'd recommend the P89, P85, P93 and P94. All alloy-framed.

    Best, Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Rangemaster View Post
    @ Ed L : I'd respectfully suggest you contact Glock on the accuracy issue. People have generally had good customer service here in the US. 10"+ groups no bueno...
    There have been several posts about bullet weights, pressure, etc. in the Radian comp thread, to the point where I shot some "hot" 115gr.ammo(like ~1300fps) and that worked. Someone had stoppages with 124 AE and the comp(?). Our experience with "duty" ammo is the Gen5s seem to like heavier projectiles a bit better; 147s and 135s seem "tighter", but to be fair, we haven't really studied/tested.
    I've said it before, but most Service pistols were probably initially tested with NATO spec ball ammo, which I understand is 124 +p range. Get outside the weight/velocity/pressure parameters and you start having to fiddle with recoil springs.
    To the OP, I've shot Tula, Wolf etc. and I expect some sort of stoppage with "bargain" ammo...
    Thanks, there isn't a problem with my gun being inaccurate. I believe HCM made an analogy on some problem Glocks that were inaccurate. The original poster asked about guns that function with inexpensive ammo and I relayed my experience with the G45 not functioning with Blazer brass 115 grain.

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    My Turkish 92 has run Fed, Rem, Win, Speer, Magtech, Fiochi, S&B, Armscor, PMC, SVT, and ZSR w/o any problems.
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