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    Revolvers Revolvers 1911s Stephanie B's Avatar
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    Holy Muzzle Flash!

    https://www.juliegolob.com/a-legend-...-the-model-350

    A .350 Legend revolver. That ought to be impressive.

    But how much does this differ from a .357 Maximum?
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    Hodgdon lists several 350 Legend loads that hit 2,000-2,100fps with 180gr bullets, but with no barrel length specified. I can get 1800fps out of my 10.5” .357 Maximum with 180grcXTP’s with sub-maximum loads of H4227. I will be very interested to see chronograph data from the S&W 350 Legend. The effective length of that 7.5” ported barrel is likely only around 6.5-6.75” due to the expansion chamber it appears to have, plus velocity loss from the barrel cylinder gap, so I would expect most 350 Legend loads to be well under 2,000fps with 180gr bullets.

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    More powerful and higher pressure than .357Max.

    .355" bullets in .350LGND vs .358" bullets for .357Max

    55k PSI from .350LGND vs. 40k PSI in .357Max

    2.26" OAL for .350LGND vs. 1.95" OAL for .357Max

    180-grain XTP @ 2100fps (20" barrel listed in my reloading manual) from .350LGND vs. 180-grain XTP @ 1950fps from .357Max (10.5" barrel).

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    Put a.357 Max in a 20” rifle barrel and it’ll go past 2,000fps with 180gr bullets without breaking a sweat. The Legend looks like a nice revolver; in fact, it is remarkably similar in appearance to my stainless Dan Wesson 357 Supermag, and I suspect it will perform about the same.

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    The R in F.A.R.T RevolverRob's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by oregon45 View Post
    Put a.357 Max in a 20” rifle barrel and it’ll go past 2,000fps with 180gr bullets without breaking a sweat. The Legend looks like a nice revolver; in fact, it is remarkably similar in appearance to my stainless Dan Wesson 357 Supermag, and I suspect it will perform about the same.
    I don't have a .357Max - do you think it's gonna be out of gas by 20"? I sort of figured to build my .357Max double around a pair of 18" barrels.

    Anyways, I suspect you are correct about general performance from a 7.5" barrel in .350LGND. All that boomage comes with some extra forcing cone erosion (doubt many folks will shoot it that much), I'd bet sticky extraction (since .350 is rimless), but...factory ammo support.

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    I’ve shot a TC Contender 21” .357 Max barrel and didn’t notice any slow down. One big difference with single or double barrel .357 Maximums is the ability to use a longer throat allowing for longer bullets, particularly 180gr Spire Point bullets intended for the .35 Whelen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    More powerful and higher pressure than .357Max.

    .355" bullets in .350LGND vs .358" bullets for .357Max

    55k PSI from .350LGND vs. 40k PSI in .357Max

    2.26" OAL for .350LGND vs. 1.95" OAL for .357Max

    180-grain XTP @ 2100fps (20" barrel listed in my reloading manual) from .350LGND vs. 180-grain XTP @ 1950fps from .357Max (10.5" barrel).
    Dbl shotties converted to these calibers. Just sayin'. Again
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    I don't see any benefit of the Legend over the Max except for short-term commercial ammo availability (long-term availability remains to be seen).

    It would be an interesting project to replace the cylinder in this new revolver with one for 357max (would be a total custom job as there isn't a smaller bore cylinder to modify). The barrel would be a bit tight, but it probably wouldn't have much impact. People already shoot .357" cast bullets in 9mm.

    Chris

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    So. a little bit of searching (like 40 seconds' worth) and I found this article that the .357 Max was not a success because of topstrap erosion.

    I'm curious as to how the .350 Legend will be different.
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    I’ll stick with my Blackhawk in .357/44 Bain & Davis, the only real advantage the long cases have are with heavier bullets. With 158’s the handiness of the standard cylinder and brass is well worth any minor velocity difference. I’m also a believer in going up in caliber if you want a heavier bullet so there is that…

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