Those were the first 20 rounds out of the box. No cleaning or oiling.Originally Posted by Tokarev
I have a thing where I don’t generally clean or oil guns when they start. I usually run them for a few hundred rounds or until they choke.
Then I take them apart and look at the shiny parts. I shine those parts up more and then I clean and oil it.
That’s my usual break in procedure.
This F'ing guy seems to have gotten his to F'ing run. I guess putting some F'ing metal polishing compound has gotten his to smooth out to the point it wants to F'ing run.
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Yet more support for the stance of never buying anything in the first year of production.
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If anyone was wondering, mags are legal.
Prodigy mags next to Czechmate mags.
Threw the Comp-tac holster onto a spare BOSS.
Did we expect something different from Springfield? I've been happy with a few of their 1911s, but I had an EMP that was a lemon and saw a few others get one as well. These aren't a Professional grade model.
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Honestly, that's pretty much what I expect from the industry as a whole.
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I was on the fence on this pistol, then I did a deep dive on the cost of this, at LE price, versus a P Optics ready on their LE program. With the extra mags and optics plate the P includes, the two pistols is less than $400. Given the likelihood of having to tinker and change parts on the 1911DS, that gap doesn't seem worth the quality difference.
I totally get those who are buying at retail for both - the difference is more like $800, which is much more significant.
I find the out of the box issues disturbing if not puzzling. When my wife and I were both using Springfield 9mm 1911s in competition we had six: 2 match, 2 backup and 2 untouched spares ('cause California). These were Stainless Loaded Target, $900 bucks or so. Needed trigger work for competition but ran 100% from day 1. I'm sure the feeding from the double stack mags requires some attention to feed ramp angle, but the number of reports of like failures represents a step backward for Springfield (we did have to send one EMP back - burr in FP channel).
I've noticed YT reviews don't consistently disclose whether the sample was purchased or provided by Springfield. IMO this can be an important distinction. I can't image a manufacturer sending out a review sample without verify that it functioned. It's unreasonable for a modern firearm to required slide polishing or a 500 round break-in: 500 rounds to get it functioning plus 500 rounds verification prior to carrying?
Staccato offers a 15% discount to active law enforcement and a 10% discount to retired officers.
Plugging in a P Optics Ready with stainless barrel, I'm seeing $2399. With the LE discount this same gun would be $2039.15.
At full retail the Prodigy is $1499. The difference is $540.15.
Granted, we're short two mags and a mag well for the Parody but the gun does come with both an iron sight rear plate and a Vortex / Burris optics plate. Additional plates are $60 at full price so about half the price of Dawson plates.
Adding in two mags at full retail is $120. Not sure about mag wells and what may or may not fit. So let's say $150 here. Now the difference drops to about $270.
I haven't seen First Line pricing (or whatever SA calls the LE program) but if it is also 15% we're looking at $1376.15 for the pistol and two extra mags. So a difference of $600 or so.
15% doesn't seem like a good enough discount. Sportsman's Warehouse has the guns for $1449. With their 5% veteran discount the gun comes down to $1376. I'm guessing here but I'd say LE price is better than this. And googling mags shows the Dura Mags for about $35 although nobody has them in stock at this low price yet.
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