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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    Many moons ago I saw some creative officers run some copper wire from a collander to a copy machine. They also placed a sheet of paper with the word "LIE" in large type on the glass. They put the collander on the head of some crook and after every question, the 'Examiner' pressed the print button and held up the results. Poor dumb crook. Turns out dumbass didn't do the crime in question. But he did confess to a separate burglary.
    Was it Bunk?


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    Not really something I studied, but I do recall the psych world thinks they are voodoo for the most part. For example: https://www.apa.org/topics/cognitive...ence/polygraph

    The social impact on the subject is a different issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VT1032 View Post
    Was it Bunk?

    My recollection is that they believed it was legit, but they did not have enough to charge him. No matter. Crook was gonna crook again.

    These were veteran plainclothes streetcrimes unit guys. Only saw them do that the one time, and that was near 30 years ago. Such shenanigans have been frowned upon for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    My recollection is that they believed it was legit, but they did not have enough to charge him. No matter. Crook was gonna crook again.

    These were veteran plainclothes streetcrimes unit guys. Only saw them do that the one time, and that was near 30 years ago. Such shenanigans have been frowned upon for some time.
    To be clear, I wasn't asking if the case was bunk. The character's nickname is Bunk. He does the exact same thing if you go to about 1:30 or so. Fantastic show if you've never watched it.

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    My state prohibits disqualifying an applicant solely for a “failed” polygraph (an examiner finding deception). However, people admit stuff all the time on the poly that get them kicked. Child porn (a lot), beastiality, selling any type of drug you can imagine. My favorite was when an applicant sent his identical twin brother to take the poly for him.

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    We had a lengthy thread about polygraphs a few years ago. Most places schedule two because the first is basically an opportunity to harangue you for a few hours to see what you'll say, then the second is the "good cop" routine which you "pass" if they still think you're a good candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TC215 View Post
    However, people admit stuff all the time on the poly that get them kicked. Child porn (a lot), beastiality, selling any type of drug you can imagine.
    Holy shit.
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    Filed under whodathunkit?

    Yeah, yeah, I know. Might make me reconsider polys...

    Just might...

    My stepmom had CI polys at Langley every 6 or so months. Maybe she is right, and I am a pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    Holy shit.
    You have no idea.

    The beastiality thing is a real problem. I’ve often wondered if there was some underground Facebook challenge that involved dogs and peanut butter. A buddy does polys for a neighboring department. He’s done hundreds. Shocking how many are eliminated for this.

    At a certain point agencies are going to have to re-evaluate what level of “that’s fucked up” that they’re going to say is an automatic disqualification.

    A couple of years ago we had a former cadet that got jammed up due to a poly. I think he ended up catching a felony out of some of the stuff that came up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    You have no idea.

    The beastiality thing is a real problem. I’ve often wondered if there was some underground Facebook challenge that involved dogs and peanut butter. A buddy does polys for a neighboring department. He’s done hundreds. Shocking how many are eliminated for this.

    At a certain point agencies are going to have to re-evaluate what level of “that’s fucked up” that they’re going to say is an automatic disqualification.

    A couple of years ago we had a former cadet that got jammed up due to a poly. I think he ended up catching a felony out of some of the stuff that came up.
    I had no idea, but now I do. If we have to re-evaluate standards, I say LE should hire people with criminal records ahead of dog fuckers.
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