Originally Posted by 45dotACP
"Gunfighting is a thinking man's game. So we might want to bring thinking back into it."-MDFA
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Can we be done with pretending we should pay attention to anything these people say about firearms? Or firearms training? Sorry....I dont give a flying fuck what the Israeli Police do in their firearms training. It is legally, practically and morally totally irrelevant to me. The fact they anybody still perpetuates some of this old school Israeli bullshit is maddening. Israel is not the US. Their laws are not the same, their Constitution (government structure) is not the same, their history of military training (where this shit came from) is not the same. I also don't care what the British, Pakistani or Japanese police do. The only thing worse than American Police firearms training is the training given to every other Police force in the world.
Ayup. Maybe we should just have all our cops carry .38 SPL J frames, because that's what Japanese police carry.
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Along those lines.
https://youtu.be/jQiMiNanIKE?t=141
In the P-F basket of deplorables.
This. ^^^
To paraphrase the late Pat Rogers Israel is a 5th rate army which looks good because they only fight 12th rate armies.
Last edited by HCM; 06-08-2022 at 01:01 AM.
Morons. How much training do they do in order to overcome the degradation in fine motor control in stress situations so that they can hit the center/outside of the leg?
Carry a gun with the chamber empty (if they're going to carry a gun that takes both hands to get into action, they should carry a ****ing Uzi). Aim for the legs. They've had lots of visits from the Bad Idea Fairy and they need to be beaten about the head with a Clue Bat.
Well, this seems to be a good place to share this goodie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTGmTrQXrwg
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
The reason they carry, or carried, an empty chamber is because traditionally they had a plethora of different style handguns. The only way to do uniform training, without standardizing on one handgun, was to carry an empty chamber
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It's going to be real tough to argue that perforating somebody's bowels, femoral arteries, genitals and the like isn't lethal force.
They've done a lot of "shoot them in the leg" overseas in the middle east, but that's because there's a very different view of life over there and relatively small amounts of money can be paid out to the shootee or the family to make it go away. I've had that conversation with some military folks who don't understand why police can't shoot people in the leg the way they sometimes did in Iraq or the 'Stan. Well, because shooting someone is definitionally lethal force. The damage bullets do counts as lethal force in every place I'm aware of. You can't less-lethally use lethal force. Our laws and jurisprudence aren't designed that way.
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About Japan, watch some Korean movies. The law there also carry 5 shot revolvers with seemingly no reloads. They were only issued when 'needed'. Otherwise, they carried ASPs. Didn't work against invulnerable demons. Nor did the 5 shots. 3,3,3 and demons - not such a good idea. Great miniseries though.
Anyway, the article was FYI and reference if one has to deal with the issue. It keeps coming up, so one should know what's out there. Some politician will quote these experts. How many ex-military, police officers, gun writers have come up with denunciations of weapons of war and mass destruction? AR rounds that will go through the opponent, one wall and then another? Saw that the other day but didn't save it. It was from an ex-military, police officer and supporter of the 2A.
Not that Amy Klobuchar's Uncle Dick's deer rifle won't do that. She supports the 2nd Amendment as long as Uncle Dick can have his deer rifle. Screw Bambi's Mom.
Basically, shots that won't hit a switch or a fast timer, just shots that will hit a slow timer so they can run off into the woods or crawl back down their burrow where you can't find them before they die.
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