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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Who wants to work with a bunch of jerk offs?

    Seriously, assuming this is on the polygraph? I could see asking about this as an impulse control issue.

    This strikes me as something that either came from a psychologist or came from me disciplinary trend.
    Yup, on the poly. I assume it came from the shrink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    Yup, on the poly. I assume it came from the shrink.
    I’m more concerned on the poly. And I’m not Le. Wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    I'm not sure when they started asking about work-jerks, but apparently it's failing more people then drug use now.
    Sort of an offbeat line of questioning...








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    Sadly, my former agency is suffering from self-inflicted wounds fired by the chief of police. The agency is strongly supported by the mayor, council, and seemingly the citizens, but the chief's left-wing thinking and draconian policies make the place a hellhole for those there. The plan for retaining officers is to start internal investigations on those believed to be looking elsewhere. Shifts are running short and there is allegedly thought on reimplementing the much-hated twelve hour shift plan to maintain staffing.

    I wonder if the masturbation at work issue comes from literal interpretation of concerns about sexual relationships in the workplace.

    On a somewhat lighter note, I will remark on the culture shock moving to a retirement job at a campus public safety department. A supervisor told me about his investigation of a report that a library aide had sexual congress with some hot exchange student in a back room at the library. (If it was consensual, this is our concern rather than his boss's, why?)After two officers had gotten a "confession" from hot exchange students on the details of the encounter, the sergeant broke the case by recovering physical evidence of safe sex from a waste basket in said back room.

    Two thoughts come to mind, one being that I've done some dirty, disgusting things to recover evidence in my career and I will again if needed. That said, if anyone thinks I'm dumpster diving to recover physical evidence of two college students banging, they've got another think coming. Second, if I'd hooked up with some hot exchange student in a back room when I was a college library aideforty some years ago, I'd still be bragging about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    For the first time in living memory we are losing people to surrounding agencies. It has *always* flowed the other way, but now people will accept a $9k pay cut to be not here. Policies and outdated equipment are oft cited reasons. Our rookies are still in CVPIs...

    Our policies aren't over restrictive, but we now have so much more documentation in place. You do a special report for a pursuit, another special report for a foot pursuit, another special report for a use of force, plus the actual report for the incident. Never has so little been measured so much, and it takes the street officer out of service for so long nobody wants to do proactive work because your beat partners will shit on you for having to take your mundane runs while you are out of service.

    Plus our prosecutor sucks.

    No way I'm starting over or taking that kind of pay cut, but I get why street guys with 3-7 years on would.
    Bureaucracy is a killer.

    But at least no one is responsible for all the failures...
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    Some of these problems are a generational issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    “We are currently attempting to renew our two-year hire list. After nine weeks, we have received one application.”
    “The more college graduates that apply, the less likely they are to want to work nights and weekends. They seem to think they are doing us a favor by wanting to work here.”
    A buddy who is a retired firefighter says his department had less than ten applicants for the last test. That can't be a good sign.

    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    On the topic of background failures, I've heard through Ye Olde Rumor Mill that the #1 thing kicking people out of the process now is *drum roll* ...... jerking off at work. Apparently the excuse given is 'stress relief' for the why of it. I'm not sure when they started asking about work-jerks, but apparently it's failing more people then drug use now.
    We're dealing with a generation that has been watching porn on their phones since they were kids, and now you want them to go eight hours without masturbating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    Some of these problems are a generational issue.
    There's no shortage of college graduates that are willing to work nights/weekends if it offers what they're looking for in return.

    Working Monday through Friday, then having to work Saturday and Sunday too on top of that, isn't going to cut it.

    In the past, people generally liked working weekend jobs because it typically meant shiftwork where you'd likely only be working 3-4 days a week total.....so you got something meaningful in return (more time off). When PDs are understaffed and the only people left working at PDs are miserable self-loathing individuals who self-medicate and are on their 4th marriage and respond to any/all problems with, "You're just a bunch of pussy zoomers", well......no shit when you don't get any qualified applicants.

    This isn't a generational issue. That's an excuse for people stuck in a rut at a shit job to make themselves feel better about their own circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    There's no shortage of college graduates that are willing to work nights/weekends if it offers what they're looking for in return.

    Working Monday through Friday, then having to work Saturday and Sunday too on top of that, isn't going to cut it.

    In the past, people generally liked working weekend jobs because it typically meant shiftwork where you'd likely only be working 3-4 days a week total.....so you got something meaningful in return (more time off). When PDs are understaffed and the only people left working at PDs are miserable self-loathing individuals who self-medicate and are on their 4th marriage and respond to any/all problems with, "You're just a bunch of pussy zoomers", well......no shit when you don't get any qualified applicants.

    This isn't a generational issue. That's an excuse for people stuck in a rut at a shit job to make themselves feel better about their own circumstances.
    In the past, people worked the schedule because it was the schedule. They we started hiring guys that didn't like that they got less vacation than people with more seniority, so they used sick time as extra days off. It's definitely generational in that my generation expected to work our way up to better shift choices, days off etc, and these guys thought they should have it all on day 1.

    And cops jerking off at work seems to be a product of the smartphone/internet porn generations.

    And FWIW, I'm not stuck in anything, anymore, ya millennial bastid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLebowski View Post
    Chicago police ‘brain drain’? Retirements have stabilized, but 660 cops retired in 2021, almost twice as many as in 2018


    https://www.chiagotribune.com/news/b...zoy-story.html
    That number is incorrect. Remember, the Chicago Tribune or as we call it, The Chicago Fibune, is the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party in Chicago hence the incorrect number. They will say anything or print anything to minimize the damage the mutant on the 5th floor is doing to the City. The correct number is 904. We expect to have at least that number if not more leave this year. They gave an entrance test few weeks ago. Or tried to. 16 people showed up for the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    In the past, people worked the schedule because it was the schedule. They we started hiring guys that didn't like that they got less vacation than people with more seniority, so they used sick time as extra days off. It's definitely generational in that my generation expected to work our way up to better shift choices, days off etc, and these guys thought they should have it all on day 1.
    Management with your outlook/mindset have clearly addressed this issue in an effective manner, given all the good applicants and officers haven't said, "Fuck this shit, I'm out" and gone elsewhere with better opportunities.
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