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    https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2023...ty-police-say/



    Mother of Uvalde shooter arrested for allegedly threatening to kill man, Oklahoma City police say
    Records: Adriana Martinez Reyes charged with assault and battery, threatening to perform an act of violence




    The mother of the Robb Elementary School shooter was arrested in Oklahoma City after she allegedly threatened to kill a man, according to police.

    Adriana Martinez Reyes, 40, was booked into the Oklahoma County Jail on Wednesday and charged with assault and battery and threatening to perform an act of violence, jail records show.
    A report from Oklahoma City police states that an officer responded to a home just before 10 a.m. because a caller said Reyes was threatening to kill a man.

    The man told officers that Reyes became angry with him and that he was “terrified of her,” the police report stated. He believed she would attack him in his sleep.

    Reyes reportedly yelled at the man while police officers were present at the home, and she said the man was “crazy.”
    A witness confirmed the man’s claims to the police.

    There was at least one other police response to the Oklahoma City home this week.
    On Sunday, there was a report of domestic violence and the man said he would get a protection order against the woman, the Uvalde Leader-News reported.

    Oklahoma City police told KSAT that Reyes confirmed she’s the mother of Salvador Ramos, the 18-year-old gunman who opened fire inside Robb Elementary School on May 24. He killed 19 students and two teachers before he was shot by law enforcement.

    Reyes previously told CNN affiliate Televisa that he “had his reasons for doing what he did.”

    “Please don’t judge him. I only want the innocent children who died to forgive me,” she said.

    The Leader-News reported that she was also arrested in Uvalde in June for charges of criminal trespassing and a warrant for driving without a valid license.


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    State police terminate another officer for response to Uvalde mass shooting


    The Texas Department of Public Safety has decided to terminate a Texas Ranger who responded to the horrific May 24 attack at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde.

    In a letter Thursday, DPS Director Steve McCraw told Texas Ranger Christopher Ryan Kindell that his actions following the shooting that killed 19 students and two teachers “did not conform to department standards.” Kindell has five days to appeal the decision.

    “You should have recognized the incident was and remained an active shooter situation which demanded an active shooter response rather than a barricaded subject situation,” McCraw wrote in the letter obtained by The Texas Tribune.
    Reached for comment Friday, Kindell would say only that he intends to appeal his firing.

    Kindell’s September suspension caused ripple effects through the criminal justice system in South and West Texas where he was the lead investigator on 50 high-profile investigations, including murders, sexual assaults and public corruption.
    But police experts and the Uvalde County district attorney had raised questions about whether DPS was retroactively punishing a handful of officers for not following policies that weren’t in place at the time of the shooting. Among their concerns: By firing a few officers, DPS and other law enforcement agencies will avoid serious analysis of how hundreds of police from multiple agencies stood by for more than 70 minutes while children and teachers lay shot in a fourth grade classroom.

    In response to a request under the Texas Public Information Act, DPS said it does not have a written active-shooter policy. Instead, the agency said at the time of the Uvalde shooting that DPS relied on guidance from the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center at Texas State University. Known as the ALERRT doctrine, it’s considered the premier active-shooter training program in the state.
    In July, McCraw sent an agencywide memo telling DPS officers the agency “will continue to embrace the ALERRT doctrine, but with one important addition.”
    “DPS Officers responding to an active shooter at a school will be authorized to overcome any delay to neutralizing an attacker,” McCraw wrote. “When a subject fires a weapon at a school he remains an active shooter until he is neutralized and is not to be treated as a ‘barricaded subject.’ We will provide proper training and guidelines for recognizing and overcoming poor command decisions at an active shooter scene.”

    McCraw and DPS spokesman Travis Considine would not comment on Friday.

    In October, McCraw decided to terminate Juan Maldonado, a DPS sergeant who’d also responded to Robb Elementary on May 24. Maldonado opted to retire rather than appeal his firing.

    Jesse Rizo, the uncle of 9-year-old Jackie Cazares, one of the students who was killed at Robb Elementary, had criticized McCraw for taking so long to hold officers accountable. On Friday, Rizo said Kindell’s firing “sends a strong message.”

    Kindell had been in charge of investigating major crimes in Uvalde and Real counties. In rural regions with smaller police departments, Texas Rangers act as lead detectives on nearly every high-profile case. After his suspension in September, Uvalde County District Attorney Christina Mitchell dismissed charges against two sexual assault defendants Kindell had investigated and agreed to a six-year plea deal to a juvenile capital murder defendant.

    “I am concerned,” Mitchell said in an interview last month. “I’ve got some other cases that if his situation does not get resolved soon, they may be dismissed.”

    In his letter, McCraw told Kindell that “as a Texas Ranger, you are expected to overcome conflicting information and to accurately assess the tactical situation.”

    Kindell was one of 91 DPS officers at the scene. Also on the scene were 149 U.S. Border Patrol officers, 25 Uvalde police officers and 16 sheriff’s deputies.

    “You took no steps to influence the law enforcement response toward an active shooter posture,” McCraw continued. “This constitutes a failure to perform your duty competently.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
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    State police terminate another officer for response to Uvalde mass shooting
    Pardon my ignorance about Texas Rangers and their roles in these situations - but is this targeting senior leadership that made the really bad calls, or is this just feeding a subordinate into the meat grinder to appease public opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRB View Post
    Pardon my ignorance about Texas Rangers and their roles in these situations - but is this targeting senior leadership that made the really bad calls, or is this just feeding a subordinate into the meat grinder to appease public opinion?
    The latter.

    A Ranger like this one assigned to a particular county or particular judicial district is essentially a state police detective, who handles sensitive matters like public corruption, or Isis local agencies with major crimes, like homicides or officer involved shootings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
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    Mother of Uvalde shooter arrested for allegedly threatening to kill man, Oklahoma City police say
    Records: Adriana Martinez Reyes charged with assault and battery, threatening to perform an act of violence


    That apple didn't fall far from the tree.

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    “He has a battle rifle”: Police feared Uvalde gunman’s AR-15

    https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03...-police-ar-15/

    In previously unreleased interviews, police who responded to the Robb Elementary shooting told investigators they were cowed by the shooter’s military-style rifle. This drove their decision to wait for a Border Patrol SWAT team to engage him, which took more than an hour.

    BY ZACH DESPART MARCH 20, 2023 15 HOURS AGO
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    A leftist reporter writing an emotional hit piece to promote gun control.


    And an inaccurate hit piece at that at that.

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    There's some interesting political nuances in this piece. Of course it is full of inaccuracies. The idea that the AWB made these guns go away or unavailable is ridiculous. The research demonstrated that equivalent guns without the cosmetic ban features were available and lots of them were sold, etc.

    However, my focus is whether civilians should have this level of firearms. Of course, I say they should. However, the gun world has tried to downplay their lethal nature at times.

    What if the officers at Uvalde in this piece has said: He has a MODERN SPORTING RIFLE instead of a 'battle rifle'?

    Would that have made the msf term look even more ridiculous than it is? Patton called an 8 shot semi gun a battle rifle. Calling a rifle with a much greater capacity a sporting toy is just ridiculous and convinces no one. But still that lingers in the gun world. IIRC, Sen. Thune when asked why ARs should be allowed, said that they are used for prairie dogs! Goes along with DeVos saying that the only thing that stops Cocaine Bear in school is a good guy with a gun, if you get my drift.

    Their civilian possession is protected by the 2nd Amendment because of their efficacious nature as a weapon. Given the horror of the shootings, how does the gun world defend them, euphemisms won't work.
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    I'd settle for them calling it what they call their own...many of those responders have a patrol rifle in their vehicles; many others have one issued to them as a personal defense weapon. I can promise you that not one responding agency issues them as battle rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    There's some interesting political nuances in this piece. Of course it is full of inaccuracies. The idea that the AWB made these guns go away or unavailable is ridiculous. The research demonstrated that equivalent guns without the cosmetic ban features were available and lots of them were sold, etc.

    However, my focus is whether civilians should have this level of firearms. Of course, I say they should. However, the gun world has tried to downplay their lethal nature at times.

    What if the officers at Uvalde in this piece has said: He has a MODERN SPORTING RIFLE instead of a 'battle rifle'?

    Would that have made the msf term look even more ridiculous than it is? Patton called an 8 shot semi gun a battle rifle. Calling a rifle with a much greater capacity a sporting toy is just ridiculous and convinces no one. But still that lingers in the gun world. IIRC, Sen. Thune when asked why ARs should be allowed, said that they are used for prairie dogs! Goes along with DeVos saying that the only thing that stops Cocaine Bear in school is a good guy with a gun, if you get my drift.

    Their civilian possession is protected by the 2nd Amendment because of their efficacious nature as a weapon. Given the horror of the shootings, how does the gun world defend them, euphemisms won't work.
    One of the big issues with the piece was the claim that Officer waited for the “border patrol swat team” with better equipment etc - this is complete bullshit.

    Uvalde police department had a “swat team” though it was a SWAT team on name only.

    Maybe agencies having b******t, me too, in name only swat teams is something that needs to be addressed. Both the Houston Astros and your four year olds. T-ball team are technically “baseball teams” but that doesn’t mean they are playing at the same level.


    While the border patrol has very competent tactical teams, in the form of Bortac and Borstar, only three of the six individuals who made entry and took out the shooter were members of those teams and they were there and acted in an individual/ad hoc self initiated capacity. Not as a team. The other three were an ICE/HSI Agent and two sheriffs deputies from a neighboring county who also self initiated. The rifle rated shield used in the entry was borrowed from some US marshals. Both the six who made entry and the US marshals had actually been directed to not enter the school building by what passed for local incident command.

    While state level assault weapons or magazine ban is unlikely in Texas, there is currently a push for so-called red flag laws and that’s what the transplanted New Yorker educated in pseudo communist Vermont is pimping with his story.

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