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Thread: To SBR or Not to SBR? That is the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballoflaco View Post
    I hope this is a joke and not the most fucking horrible and bassackwards idea Iíve read all month.

    Whatís your plan if you suddenly need to stop? Drop the rifle and hope you have time to grab some front brakes or just slam on the rear brake pedal and hope you can control the lowside (or maybe when high side) with only one hand on the bars while your trying not to shoot yourself?
    ABS eliminates rear brakes from locking up and causing a low slide so that isn't a problem. The only way there would be a high side is if the rear brake is released once your in a low slide and get traction. You have to ride the low slide through or your going to go sailing high side. Did you not see the smiley face posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by medmo View Post
    It is possible to ride a motorcycle on cruise control, draw from the right side saddle bag, fire from locked and loaded, all one handed. I don't think unfolding a folded Law foldable stock is going to make things less complicated or even do-able one handed.
    I canít tell if youíre being serious because of the smilie. If you are being serious, you absolutely need to reevaluate what you think a lawful defensive firearm deployment is going to look like. The only scenario thatís not in an action movie in which I can even imagine this occurring is if youíre a motor officer. In that case, you probably wouldnít be trying to make a braced pistol work because your agency would have issued you an SBR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Friday View Post
    You've literally never done this.
    No, literally and figuratively, never done this. But it has been done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medmo View Post
    No, literally and figuratively, never done this. But it has been done.
    You realize that was a movie, and not a documentary...right? The kind of movie with special effects, CGI, and camera angle trickery...right?!


    Quote Originally Posted by WobblyPossum View Post
    The only scenario thatís not in an action movie in which I can even imagine this occurring is if youíre a motor officer. In that case, you probably wouldnít be trying to make a braced pistol work because your agency would have issued you an SBR.
    Even then, there's no way it would ever be employed in the manner he's envisioning. When I was on Motors/SWAT, we had a couple of guys that carried 10.5" M16's in their saddlebag (receivers separated), but never...never, ever, ever, EVER...would they have been deployed while either 1. on the move, or 2. one handed (much less both!). And his bag is a Civvie H-D bag (Police bags have a different latch/hinge set up), so it would seem this is just someone that envisions themselves as either a T800 or The Punisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WobblyPossum View Post
    I canít tell if youíre being serious because of the smilie. If you are being serious, you absolutely need to reevaluate what you think a lawful defensive firearm deployment is going to look like. The only scenario thatís not in an action movie in which I can even imagine this occurring is if youíre a motor officer. In that case, you probably wouldnít be trying to make a braced pistol work because your agency would have issued you an SBR.
    A motor officer would come to a complete stop before deploying a rifle or a braced pistol. Even if personal safety wasn't in question, any accuracy would be out of the question and the risk of putting holes in things that you didn't want to put holes in would be very high. There is a lot going on mentally and physically riding a motorcycle. You drive a car, you ride a motorcycle. I'm not a motor officer, but I do have training and can pass a motor officer qual course. Have you seen videos of riders chasing cones in itty bitty spaces scraping floor boards all the way? I do that. Full lock u turn from a stop left and right, 18' keyholes, brake and evade, etc.

    Okay back to the subject. I stow an SA Saint pistol in my right side hard saddle bag secured with ATV clip mounts. The diameter of the end of the pistol brace or butt end of an SBR is critical for height. The pistol brace diameter is a close fit so I don't think any stocked SBR, fully assembled, would fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medmo View Post
    The diameter of the end of the pistol brace or butt end of an SBR is critical for height. The pistol brace diameter is a close fit so I don't think any stocked SBR, fully assembled, would fit.
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    Maybe not for an AR, but the MPX/MCX the stock options can be pretty short and slim.

    Top two are braces and bottom is a stock.

    There are even slimmer stocks but I still want a good cheek weld.
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