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Thread: Switching between a dot and irons on a defensive pistol

  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    I don't even compete but that was awesome to watch. Splits, movement, everything.

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    If I could run like that, I would run away - LOL. Impressive to watch.

    Anyway, got this in feed on failure to stop drills. Don't know the author. Just FYI: https://www.reddit.com/r/GunMagWareh...hats_what_the/

    Really nothing new but a review.

  3. #83
    Reading this also took me back down memory lane to a time long, long ago, back to a time when the power factor was harder to meet. Maybe scoring paper targets made more sense then, when major and minor were more of a choice between a Browning and a Colt?

    In a defensive shooting two C hits probably will not be enough unless it is, and two A hits might be enough, or it might be excessive, all of these scoring systems are just that. IMO two C hits would be what you would want if that is what you can get before your opponent causes you to start leaking, and it probably will distract them and degrade their ability to do what they are doing while you do what you need to do.

    I think we might be setting standards high enough that a winner can be declared in a highly contested match event, and using that as criteria for training somebody new, when two C hits would probably enable someone to break contact and escape from their rapist. If only A hits matter then should we just shoot A zone steel KD targets? But hitting those A zones at the typical match ranges is (IMO) a lot easier (with my eyesight) with a dot. Maybe Carry Optics is a bit like history repeating itself, when your 5" 1911 45ACP was eclipsed by people (with more money than I had) shooting compensated 38 Supers (built by expensive specialists with long wait times) that could manage to swing the power factor pendulum (ETA: back before the earth cooled chronographs didn't cost only $125) just far enough, now if you are a middle age guy you probably need a dot to play.

    But I do not want to get to the point where I cannot function without one. The scenario of the Ersie Joyner guy who was attacked at the gas station in Oakland is probably more representative of a defensive shooting than most USPSA COFs, but if that was a match it would be hard to declare a winner.
    Last edited by mmc45414; 05-16-2022 at 01:58 PM.

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