I thought you were :-)Originally Posted by TOTS
While I love the looks of a blued 1911, my only one took under a week to turn orange so it's never an option for me.
I thought you were :-)
While I love the looks of a blued 1911, my only one took under a week to turn orange so it's never an option for me.
" La rose est sans pourquoi, elle fleurit parce qu’elle fleurit ; Elle n’a souci d’elle-même, ne demande pas si on la voit. » Angelus Silesius
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You are right, I believe, about stainless (and thank you for the added tips in taking care of it), but I'm looking at carbon steel guns (yes a 1911 :-) ) and I want a finish that will handle what I described in my question (the wear resistance part being important only in not allowing oxydation of the exposed steel).
I have one 1911 that is as environmentally resistant as can be (Post #31): it's DLC over hard chrome but that's a unique case.
" La rose est sans pourquoi, elle fleurit parce qu’elle fleurit ; Elle n’a souci d’elle-même, ne demande pas si on la voit. » Angelus Silesius
"There are problems in this universe for which there are no answers." Paul Muad'dib
I will add that, while blue finishes are not very protective, coating blued guns in a wax (I’ve found both Johnsons paste wax and natural shoe polish satisfactory) or a product such as Eezox (better than the aforementioned) will keep corrosion at bay with minimal upkeep. And I live basically on the beach; plastic rusts here.
Now Accepting Orders
NT7 and NT7+ are the long awaited NP3 replacement coatings
NT7® is a surface treatment for steel and metal alloys that combines sub-micron particles of PTFE (polytetrafluoroethylene), otherwise known as Teflon, with electroless nickel. The application of NT7® is auto-catalytic or electroless. This process is preferable to standard electrolytic plating as all active surfaces are plated with uniform thickness, which is crucial when working with firearms.
The replacement coatings NT7™ & NT7 Plus™ will have very similar performance specs to the NP3 specs and just like their predecessors the “Plus” coating will have a higher corrosion resistance. NT7™ and NT7 Plus™ are based on a Nickel Teflon coating so they will have a similar satin Nickel appearance and the same low coefficient of friction and non-stick properties that we have all come to know and love over the years.
https://wrightarmory.com/wp-content/...-WA-7.7.23.pdf
https://wrightarmory.com/wp-content/...ricelist-7.pdf
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"Your shotgun is running a bit frenetic, you should add some lavender to your lubricant, that should calm it down." -Aray, Oils and Lotions SME
Very interesting. So, they (WA) hired people to replicate (basically) NP3?
As far as I know, that is correct. they replicated the process with expert help, and built a lab to plate metal themselves.
I get their emails and this is my understanding. First batch is now closed (must be received by August 11) so new pricing
will be up soon. Estimated Leadtime for all orders received after 8/11/23: 10 - 12 weeks.
Here is the complete text from the email dated: Sun, May 28 at 2:04 AM
In October of 2021, without any warning the NP3 family of
coatings was discontinued from the retail market. We were just as
shocked as you and we vowed that we would find a suitable
replacement. Our goal was to find a coating that was similar in
performance, chemical makeup, and corrosion resistance.
Over the past 2 years we have enlisted the help of the top
chemical engineers, process engineers, and coating specialists
from across the country to help us with this tall order. Through
this process we discovered that we actually had two problems to
solve.
First was the obvious, we needed a performance coating that could
meet our strict requirements. Secondly, and just as important, we
realized we also needed an applicator that we could trust to
apply the coating.
We were unsuccessful on both fronts. After much deliberation we
realized that there was really only one option.
The only way to get the coating performance we needed and to
ensure that we could provide the service that our customers
deserved would be if we designed our own proprietary coating and
undertook the significant investment to build our own inhouse
plating facility.
I am excited to tell you that this is exactly what we did.
Construction of our inhouse plating facility started in March of
this year and barring any unforeseen construction delays will be
completed by the end of August.
**Please DO NOT SEND IN COATING ORDERS until we announce that we
are accepting orders**
We will be equipped to process: Steel, Stainless Steel, and
Aluminum parts. We plan to be processing customer parts starting
in September.
The replacement coatings NT7™ & NT7 Plus™ will have very similar
performance specs to the NP3 specs and just like their
predecessors the “Plus” coating will have a higher corrosion
resistance.
NT7™ and NT7 Plus™ are based on a Nickel Teflon coating so they
will have a similar satin Nickel appearance and the same low
coefficient of friction and non-stick properties that we have all
come to know and love over the years. We will be releasing
pricing and more details about NT7™ as September approaches.
Key Info:
NP3 has been replaced with NT7™
NT7™ & NT7 Plus™ will be applied inhouse in our brand new plating facility
Construction on our inhouse plating facility will be completed 9/1/2023
Please DO NOT SEND ORDERS NOW, we will let you know when
We will release pricing and more spec's for NT7™ & NT7 Plus™ in the coming months
We look forward to better serving you and your firearm refinishing needs in the very near future!
Sincerely,
Brian Wright
President & CEO
"To achieve any significant technological breakthrough, much Derp must be endured." -Rich@CCC
"Your shotgun is running a bit frenetic, you should add some lavender to your lubricant, that should calm it down." -Aray, Oils and Lotions SME
@nycnoob thx for keeping us updated, still have a complete AR BCG from when Robbie owned ROBAR & was lucky to get a mdl 13 done by Freddie right after he bought the org so glad to have this option available again.
It's great that they did this, I guess the only question is, will this new finish be the same quality, or close to the same as NP3 was?
I had sent my P30 off to WA back in 'late '19, and it was a shit-show! (i documented this in a lengthy post) Maybe it was just a rough period of time for them, being new to the NP3 application process, since Robar was gone. (?) Hopefully, they have got their shit together now, and are doing good work.
I was under the impression that WA was just a middle man doing disassembly receiving etc., and that the NP3 coating always was done by Coating Technologies, no matter which shop it was shipped to.
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This is my understanding as well.
What ever happened was with Coating Technologies the originator of NP3.
The Wright plating lab only opened in the past month, so it was not their work or NT7 on your parts.
"To achieve any significant technological breakthrough, much Derp must be endured." -Rich@CCC
"Your shotgun is running a bit frenetic, you should add some lavender to your lubricant, that should calm it down." -Aray, Oils and Lotions SME
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